Miruvor

Antifungals

18 people describe trying Antifungals (17 with ME/CFS, 1 with long COVID).

6%
recovered fully or nearly
1 of 18
83%
improved (substantial or partial)
15 of 18
0%
relapsed
0 of 18
11%
no benefit
2 of 18

How it went

Did it last?

  • 4 of 18 said the benefit wore off.
  • 1 of 18 needed to keep doing it to stay well.

Read from what people wrote. A story that ends without a follow-up counts as lasting, so treat these as minimums.

Outcome describedAccountsShare
Full recovery16%
Near-full00%
Substantial844%
Partial739%
Relapsed00%
No benefit211%

By how ill people were

Severity at worstHow it wentnRecovered
Moderate20%
Severe70%
Very severe333%

6 accounts don’t say how ill the person was.

Who published these accounts

Sells a treatment or program2 accounts
50%
Independent (blog, forum, news)16 accounts
0%

Right-hand number: share describing a full or near-full recovery. Pages that sell something, and advocacy sites, tend to publish only the successes.

How often it comes up

Posts that mention Antifungals, per 1,000 posts each year. Hover a point for the count.

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YearPosts mentioning itAll postsPer 1,000
200901840.0
201056827.3
201107040.0
201201,4910.0
201351,7082.9
2014142,3526.0
201512,1580.5
201611,4310.7
2017113,1103.5
2018102,2014.5
201901,0750.0
202062,5812.3
202151,8672.7
202241,1663.4
202361,0006.0
202441,2373.2
202521,0192.0
2026 (so far)18401.2

Posts in the forum threads we archived, 26,806 in all, counted per year. A mention means the post names the treatment, not that the writer took it. These threads all contain a recovery story, so they show what those communities discussed, not everyone with ME/CFS or long COVID. All trends

All 18 accounts

  • Relief! I still have CFS but am a MILLION times better, takes a lot of work but worth it

    Substantial ME/CFS SevereIll 13 yearsEffect faded healthrising.org Jan 2026

    Built an extensive daily regimen around kratom (Green Malay strain), weekly B12 injections, magnesium, psyllium fiber, CPAP therapy, an annual course of Xifaxan and a year-long course of itraconazole, plus NAC, glycine, glutathione and BPC-157, for ME/CFS…

  • Relief! I still have CFS but am a MILLION times better

    Substantial ME/CFS SevereIll 13 yearsEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me · sells Jan 2026

    julienl42's own title is his hedge: after 13 years and a long, actively-managed stack of prescription, antifungal, sleep and supplement treatments, he has gone from being in bed all day with 3-4 crashes a month to about one crash every one to two months,…

  • improvement

    Partial ME/CFS SevereIll 13 years healthrising.org Sep 2024

    Combined itraconazole delivered via a Nasoneb diffuser with famotidine (Pepcid), Zantac, kratom, Alka-Seltzer, Alvesco, albuterol and PYM Attention chews for ME/CFS with PEM, IBS and POTS-type episodes. Had been ill about 13 years. Reports seeing improvement…

  • Severe ME/CFS 2013, Remission 2017, Relapse, Remission Dec 2022

    Partial ME/CFS SevereEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Aug 2024

    Treating what she frames as underlying candida/parasite causes with a long, MD/PhD-supervised rotation of antifungals, antiparasitics and herbs, GlacierBloom reached remission by December 2022 after being severe/bedridden from 2013-2017 and again after a…

  • Pepcid and 1 month without an 'episode'

    Partial ME/CFS SevereIll 13 years healthrising.org Aug 2024

    Started taking Pepcid (famotidine) for PEM, IBS and POTS-type episodes and initially went a full month without an episode for the first time in years. Had been ill about 13 years, with roughly 80% of episodes lasting two to three days and some up to two…

  • A bit of a breakthrough

    Substantial ME/CFS ModerateIll 13 years inspire.com May 2024

    Posting as "bradmcblain," the patient used chelation therapy for mercury toxicity, Freddd's B12 Protocol with daily methylcobalamin injections, methylene blue (started 3 months before the post), and — added 2 weeks before posting — a Vielight Neuro Gamma…

  • Pepcid and 1 Month Without an Episode

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me 2024

    julienl42 credited a combination regimen - nebulized itraconazole plus Pepcid, Zantac, kratom, Alka-Seltzer, Alvesco and albuterol - with a month free of the episodes referenced in the thread title. No further detail on duration of illness, severity, or…

  • Candida Disappearing with Calcium

    Substantial ME/CFS ModerateIll 17 years forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2023

    After 17 years of chronic oral thrush resistant to multiple antifungals including nine months of Lamisil, she started calcium citrate 500mg twice daily (later reduced to 250mg twice daily) in October 2023. Her thrush is "practically GONE," with no die-off…

  • Recovery (Living with Long COVID group)

    Substantial Long COVID SevereEffect faded inspire.com 2023

    User jsmock63 had surgery to remove most of their right lung, followed by six months of the antifungal voriconazole; no dose is given, and the pre-surgery illness severity or duration isn't described on the page. They reported feeling "pretty good" at 6 and…

  • Has anyone followed the Neil Nathan approach and gotten better?

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severe forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2020

    Starting from a near-death baseline, she followed Neil Nathan's very slow, micro-dosed binder-rotation protocol over two years. After an initial three to four months of worsening reactions, she gained 12kg over five months and estimates she has improved…

  • From a nursing patient to a mountain climber: For four years I lay completely helpless and motionless in bed

    Full recovery ME/CFS Very severeIll 8 years recoverynorway.org · sells Dec 2020

    Jan Even Raastad credits a Lightning Process course run in his home in late 2010 by Live Landmark and a medical student, after years of prednisone, Imurel, Remicade, Nexavir, antibiotics, antivirals, antifungals, growth hormones and countless supplements had…

  • Full Recovery of 27 Severe Mycotoxicosis Patients (O2 / FIR / Sups / Antifungal / AIET) + POLL

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Apr 2018

    On cholestyramine and two months away from home while addressing a broad B-vitamin deficiency found on testing (which he attributes partly to cholestyramine binding nutrients), he reports improvement has been minimal, "without much improvement," and adjusted…

  • Full Recovery of 27 Severe Mycotoxicosis Patients (O2 / FIR / Sups / Antifungal / AIET) + POLL

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Apr 2018

    After testing positive for several mycotoxins, he moved out of his home for 10 weeks and took chlorophyll and activated charcoal, but "noticed no effect" on his ME. He had previously had two complete recoveries with full triathlon training and zero symptoms…

  • Full Recovery of 27 Severe Mycotoxicosis Patients (O2 / FIR / Sups / Antifungal / AIET) + POLL

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Mar 2018

    On a Shoemaker-based CIRS protocol built around cholestyramine (the only conventional medicine she tolerated), plus FIR sauna and liposomal glutathione, and after relocating to a house with an ERMI in the lowest 25th percentile, she reports now passing the…

  • Need to delete this. [Deleted]

    Partial ME/CFS Very severe healthrising.org Jun 2017

    Treated a combination of CIRS/mold illness, Lyme, Babesia and antibiotic-resistant MARCONS sinus infection with doxycycline plus Diflucan, then a rotating four-times-daily binder regimen (Takesumi charcoal, diatomaceous earth, zeoBind, citrus pectin), a BEG…

  • what has worked for you

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2014

    Combined a gluten-free, dairy-free paleo diet with Nystatin, an S. boulardii probiotic, a Freddd-style methylation protocol, coffee enemas and gentle 30-minute cold-water swims. She reports these "have helped" enough that she is now "able to work part time…

  • Feeling amazing after getting out of Mold/Mycotoxin home

    Substantial ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2014

    After moving out of a mold/mycotoxin-contaminated home and combining methylation supplements, antifungals/antibiotics/antiparasitics, a bentonite clay binder and multiple hyperbaric oxygen sessions, she reports "amazing improvements" over the preceding month…

  • Methylation recovery survey. Recovery stories here!!

    Substantial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me May 2014

    Followed a "Yasko lite" methylation protocol blending Rich Van Konynenburg/Freddd/Ben Lynch approaches for about 1.5 years, including methylcobalamin, adenosylcobalamin, potassium, magnesium, molybdenum and methylfolate. She discontinued long-term antifungal…