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Pycnogenol and grape seed extract

9 people describe trying Pycnogenol and grape seed extract, all with ME/CFS.

0%
recovered fully or nearly
0 of 9
78%
improved (substantial or partial)
7 of 9
0%
relapsed
0 of 9
22%
no benefit
2 of 9

How it went

Did it last?

  • No one said the benefit wore off.
  • 4 of 9 needed to keep doing it to stay well.

Read from what people wrote. A story that ends without a follow-up counts as lasting, so treat these as minimums.

Outcome describedAccountsShare
Full recovery00%
Near-full00%
Substantial444%
Partial333%
Relapsed00%
No benefit222%

Only 9 accounts. Treat these percentages as anecdotes, not rates.

By how ill people were

Severity at worstHow it wentnRecovered
Severe10%

8 accounts don’t say how ill the person was.

Who published these accounts

Independent (blog, forum, news)9 accounts
0%

Right-hand number: share describing a full or near-full recovery. Pages that sell something, and advocacy sites, tend to publish only the successes.

How often it comes up

Posts that mention Pycnogenol and grape seed extract, per 1,000 posts each year. Hover a point for the count.

05102009201220152018202120242026
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YearPosts mentioning itAll postsPer 1,000
200911845.4
201046825.9
201127042.8
2012151,49110.1
201381,7084.7
201472,3523.0
201512,1580.5
201611,4310.7
201753,1101.6
201862,2012.7
201911,0750.9
202032,5811.2
202101,8670.0
202201,1660.0
202321,0002.0
202421,2371.6
202531,0192.9
2026 (so far)08400.0

Posts in the forum threads we archived, 26,806 in all, counted per year. A mention means the post names the treatment, not that the writer took it. These threads all contain a recovery story, so they show what those communities discussed, not everyone with ME/CFS or long COVID. All trends

All 9 accounts

  • Grape Seed Extract, Thins/Cleans our Blood

    Substantial ME/CFS healthrising.org Dec 2020

    Started taking OPC Vital, a grape seed extract variant, on a doctor's recommendation. Illness duration and severity are not detailed. Says she feels great, is less aggressive, her skin condition is good, she is more productive and active, and her hands,…

  • Grape Seed Extract, Thins/Cleans our Blood

    Substantial ME/CFS healthrising.org Sep 2019

    Took Pycnogenol daily for a year in 1995, then switched to ongoing Grape Seed Extract for more than 23 years since. Describes a lifetime of allergy and sinus issues beforehand. Says a lifetime of those issues went away, and by a later update at 82 years old…

  • Your experiences with grape seed extract.

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Nov 2018

    Grape seed extract, dose and duration not stated; how long ill and severity are also not given. He reported that it caused terrible insomnia. He wanted to keep taking it for its allergy benefits but could not tolerate the sleep disruption. He discontinued…

  • Your experiences with grape seed extract.

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Nov 2018

    Pycnogenol, a grape-derived extract, taken at a high initial dose of four capsules before later dropping to a lower maintenance amount; duration of illness and severity are not stated. He described an intense bodily reaction at the high dose, a fizzing…

  • Going Under the Knife Does It.

    Substantial ME/CFS healthrising.org Sep 2017

    Commenting on another patient's sinus surgery story, mentions her own long-running use of Pycnogenol starting in 1995 and then Grape Seed Extract for over 23 years since, for lifelong sinus and allergy problems. Illness duration and severity are not detailed…

  • Oscillo and Flu Prevention

    Partial ME/CFS healthrising.org Sep 2017

    Uses Oscillococcinum, a homeopathic remedy, at the first signs of flu symptoms, alongside Hyland's Calms Forte for sleep and decades of ongoing Grape Seed Extract use. Illness duration and severity are not detailed, and this account concerns flu-avoidance…

  • Pycnogeneol

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Sep 2012

    Pycnogenol, taken as Swanson's pine bark extract at 100mg per day. Illness duration and severity are not stated in the post, though the poster had already seen immune-related improvements from other treatments. He reports a notable improvement right away…

  • Fixing Leaky Gut Helps ME/CFS, and Sometimes Achieves Full Remission

    Substantial ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me Nov 2011

    Took a twice-daily leaky-gut supplement stack (S. boulardii, grape seed extract, zinc carnosine, vitamin E, NAG, triphala, glutamine, slippery elm bark, zinc) after years of severe IBS-D alongside his ME/CFS. Digestion was much improved within 3-4 days and…

  • Anyone tried Pycnogenol?

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    Pycnogenol, taken together with grape seed extract as part of a wider antioxidant regimen; exact dose and duration of illness are not stated. He reports the regimen successfully normalized his oxidative stress markers on testing. Despite that biochemical…