How it went
Did it last?
- No one said the benefit wore off.
- No one said they needed to keep it up to stay well.
Read from what people wrote. A story that ends without a follow-up counts as lasting, so treat these as minimums.
| Outcome described | Accounts | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Full recovery | 2 | 33% |
| Near-full | 0 | 0% |
| Substantial | 1 | 17% |
| Partial | 2 | 33% |
| Relapsed | 0 | 0% |
| No benefit | 1 | 17% |
Only 6 accounts. Treat these percentages as anecdotes, not rates.
By how ill people were
| Severity at worst | How it went | n | Recovered |
|---|---|---|---|
| Moderate | 1 | 0% | |
| Severe | 1 | 0% | |
| Very severe | 3 | 67% |
1 accounts don’t say how ill the person was.
Who published these accounts
50% of these accounts are on pages that sell this treatment or a program around it. Those pages publish their successes; compare the independent row.
How often it comes up
Posts that mention Nexavir / Kutapressin (liver derivative), per 1,000 posts each year. Hover a point for the count.
Show as a table
| Year | Posts mentioning it | All posts | Per 1,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 0 | 184 | 0.0 |
| 2010 | 0 | 682 | 0.0 |
| 2011 | 13 | 704 | 18.5 |
| 2012 | 8 | 1,491 | 5.4 |
| 2013 | 0 | 1,708 | 0.0 |
| 2014 | 0 | 2,352 | 0.0 |
| 2015 | 4 | 2,158 | 1.9 |
| 2016 | 2 | 1,431 | 1.4 |
| 2017 | 0 | 3,110 | 0.0 |
| 2018 | 4 | 2,201 | 1.8 |
| 2019 | 2 | 1,075 | 1.9 |
| 2020 | 3 | 2,581 | 1.2 |
| 2021 | 0 | 1,867 | 0.0 |
| 2022 | 0 | 1,166 | 0.0 |
| 2023 | 0 | 1,000 | 0.0 |
| 2024 | 0 | 1,237 | 0.0 |
| 2025 | 0 | 1,019 | 0.0 |
| 2026 (so far) | 0 | 840 | 0.0 |
Posts in the forum threads we archived, 26,806 in all, counted per year. A mention means the post names the treatment, not that the writer took it. These threads all contain a recovery story, so they show what those communities discussed, not everyone with ME/CFS or long COVID. All trends
All 6 accounts
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Adam's BCG Vaccination Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) Recovery Story
Liver derivative complex (Nexavir), given as 2ml per day by subcutaneous injection alongside hydroxocobalamin 10mg intramuscularly twice weekly, was used for about two years. He had been severely ill with ME/CFS for over two decades, at times unable to work…
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A Rapamycin Resurgence: An MD Moves the Needle on his ME/CFS
Liver derivative complex (Nexavir) was one of more than a dozen treatments he listed trying, alongside antidepressants, antivirals, erythromycin, doxycycline, NAC and others, with no dose or duration specified for it individually. He had been very severely…
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ATP working well for me
After COVID worsened his decades-old condition, Keshav began sublingual ATP and reports dramatic improvement within 3 days, and within 24 hours of his first injectable ATP dose felt his "mind was much sharper," mood and energy much better. Follow-up posts…
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From a nursing patient to a mountain climber: For four years I lay completely helpless and motionless in bed
Jan Even Raastad credits a Lightning Process course run in his home in late 2010 by Live Landmark and a medical student, after years of prednisone, Imurel, Remicade, Nexavir, antibiotics, antivirals, antifungals, growth hormones and countless supplements had…
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Pat Gurnick Learned How to Get Well from CFS
Pat Gurnick's main treatment was the Guaifenesin Protocol (developed by Dr. Paul St. Amand), followed for 1.2 years, alongside the antiviral Kutapressin and pacing and self-regulation techniques from Dr. William Collinge's CFS book, plus staying within her…
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Anybody improve on gcmaf alone (without hepapressin, nexavir, antivirals)?
Took KMAF, a GcMAF variant, for 2-3 months and reports viral antibody titers dropping to near-equivocal and NK-cell function improving. He is explicitly hedged about causation, writing "success is hard to measure" and that he cannot separate KMAF's effect…