210: 20% Who Don't Get Better - A Therapist's Perspective (Ellen Ronka)
- Condition
- ME/CFS
- At worst
- Not stated
- Ill before improving
- 25 years
- Published
- Mar 2026
In their words
- Condition: ME/CFS
Ellen is a licensed psychotherapist who spent 25 years living with a constantly shifting list of chronic symptoms.
Watch the video ↗From the video’s captions - Now: Recovered
her own symptoms resolved
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Summary
Ellen, a psychotherapist, lived with chronic symptoms for about 25 years and described them as CFS. During that time she did psychotherapy without finding answers for the symptoms. She credits discovering modern pain science, and using it to train her brain out of the sensations, with her symptoms resolving. She later trained in pain reprocessing therapy.
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What they tried
What they credit
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- psychotherapy work · No change
I was doing all this psychotherapy work
Watch the video ↗From the video’s captions - modern pain science · Helped a lot
when she finally discovered modern pain science, her own symptoms resolved
Watch the video ↗From the video’s captions
Approaches: Brain retraining
Their path
How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, in the order they describe; they don’t give enough times to place each step. Hover or tap a point. 1 step says too little to place on the scale and is only in the table. What the levels mean.
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| When | What happened | Where they were | After |
|---|---|---|---|
| onset | Start of 25 years of shifting chronic symptomsspent 25 years living with a constantly shifting list of chronic symptomsWatch the video ↗From the video’s captions | Not stated | |
| after about 25 years | Symptoms resolved once she learned modern pain sciencewhen she finally discovered modern pain science, her own symptoms resolvedWatch the video ↗From the video’s captions | Recovered | Brain retraining programs (DNRS, Gupta, ANS Rewire, Primal Trust) |
| — | Healed; now runs recovery groups as a therapistonce I got healed upWatch the video ↗From the video’s captions | Recovered |
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