Long COVID with palpitations and broken sleep, nearly back to normal; nattokinase helped
- Condition
- Long COVID
- At worst
- Mild (working or studying, with limits)
- Ill before improving or writing
- 2 years
- Last post
- May 2024
In their words
- Condition: Long COVID
I got long haul symptoms last year after my second jab of the vaccine.
In context ↗ - At worst: Mild
I have maybe... 2 grams of each in water a day that I slowly sip as I work. ... Got super weak after I stupidly tried to run a couple times and nearly passed out.
- Now: Near normal
Much much better. Maybe fully recovered, hard to tell since I haven’t pushed my exercise too hard. ... Palpitations. Interrupted sleep. I don’t really get pem, but I get very lethargic out of the blue sometimes.
- Began after: a vaccination
I got long haul symptoms last year after my second jab of the vaccine.
In context ↗
Read from 15 of their posts and comments; links to the 12 this page draws on
Summary
Long COVID began after a second vaccine dose in May 2021; after about seven months, a COVID infection in January 2022 was followed a month later by a tripling of symptoms including palpitations, chest pain, tachycardia and broken sleep. Nattokinase with ginkgo biloba, potassium and low-dose aspirin eased the palpitations. By late 2023 they felt much better, possibly recovered, though in May 2024 palpitations and interrupted sleep remained and they had avoided pushing hard exercise.
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What they tried
What they credit
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- nattokinase · Helped a lot
Taking the nato has made me mostly asymptomatic, but if I try to exercise too hard, I go into a relapse that’s hard to get out of.
In context ↗ - ginkgo biloba · Helped
Natokinase and ginkgo biloba helped a lot.
In context ↗ - baby aspirin / low dose aspirin · Helped
Seems to suppress the palpitations pretty well
In context ↗ - advil · Worse
I’ve done all 3 a few times and it doesn’t seem right. I get super weak and tired… I don’t think that’s a good symptom while taking anticoagulants and blood thinners.
In context ↗ - potassium (Nu-salt / no-salt in water) · Helped
I can drink some potassium in water and my chest pain goes away in 15 minutes.
In context ↗ - sodium · Helped
Potassium/sodium together seem to help a good bit.
In context ↗ - OMAD / intermittent fasting · Helped
Smaller meals and a little intermittent fasting helps too.
In context ↗ - cutting out meat / vegetarian diet · Helped
I’ve gone vegetarian and eat entire meals of just fruit like cantaloupe and pineapple. Has made a world of difference.
In context ↗ - Jarro dophilus eps (L. Rhamnosus) · Helped
I also did probiotics that seemed to have an immediate effect, but maybe not as effective in the long term.
In context ↗ - sleep and resting · Helped a lot
I think what helped most was putting lots of effort into sleep and resting.
In context ↗ - cold showers · Helped
Cold showers were critical
In context ↗ - back hook massage, rolling and stretching · Helped
I found some knots in my back that I got out with a hook massager. Had to really dig around there and get it like every night before bed. Helped alot.
In context ↗ - long walks · Helped
Going on long walks.
In context ↗ - L-arginine · Helped
L-arginine helps. All things that soften/open up the endothelium.
In context ↗
Approaches: Alternative therapies · Anticoagulants · Diet · Exercise and activity · Radical rest · Supplements
Their path
How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. The chart starts 8 months after onset: the story doesn’t say how ill they were before that. 2 steps say too little to place on the scale and are only in the table. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.
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| When | What happened | Where they were | After |
|---|---|---|---|
| May 2021 | long haul symptoms after second vaccine doseGot the jab may 2021 and had symptoms until I got Covid in JanuaryIn context ↗ | Not stated | |
| late 2021 | symptoms fading after about seven monthsRight as I was healing I got covid.In context ↗ | Not stated | |
| January 2022 | COVID infection tripled symptomsOne month later all the long haul symptoms were back but now 3x.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| August 2022 | symptom-free day on nattokinase, ginkgo and aspirinAnd let me say... it seems to be working wonders. Today I have had zero symptoms.In context ↗ | Mild | Nattokinase |
| September 2022 | relapse after exercising too hardif I try to exercise too hard, I go into a relapse that’s hard to get out ofIn context ↗ | Mild | |
| October 2022 | chest pain down to barely noticeableI’m at 10 months and the pain has gone down to barely noticeable.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| October 2023 | much better, possibly fully recoveredMuch much better. Maybe fully recovered, hard to tell since I haven’t pushed my exercise too hard.In context ↗ | Near normal | |
| May 2024 | palpitations and interrupted sleep remain, occasional lethargyPalpitations. Interrupted sleep. I don’t really get pem, but I get very lethargic out of the blue sometimes.In context ↗ | Near normal |
Adverse events
- Nattokinase“I’ve done all 3 a few times and it doesn’t seem right. I get super weak and tired… I don’t think that’s a good symptom while taking anticoagulants and blood thinners.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Intermittent fasting“Earlier in long-haul, before I discovered this, fasting gave me palpitations too.” In context ↗ Heart rhythm problems
- Nattokinase“I already tried about 8,000 FU yesterday. Didn’t seem incredibly helpful, but I spread it into 4 doses. Got palpitations last night.” In context ↗ Heart rhythm problems
- Intermittent fasting“For some reason fasting too long hurts me though.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Nattokinase“I prob would tell anybody to not rely too much on those. Maybe take for less than a month because maybe fucked with my gut.” In context ↗ Gut side effects
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Heart symptoms & palpitations
Palpitations. Interrupted sleep.
In context ↗ - Sleep problems
Interrupted sleep. I don’t really get pem
In context ↗ - Muscle weakness
Got super weak after I stupidly tried to run a couple times and nearly passed out.
In context ↗ - Post-exertional malaise
if I try to exercise too hard, I go into a relapse that’s hard to get out of
In context ↗
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