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ME/CFS Moderate → much betterIll 20 years before improving or writingNeeds ongoing treatment

ME/CFS leg pain and crashes for 20 years, now symptoms rare with meat diet and exercise

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Moderate (mostly housebound)
Ill before improving or writing
20 years
Last post
Apr 2022
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSI have all five main symptoms of CFS listed on this subreddit In context ↗
  • At worst: ModerateSore legs, fatigue legs are my biggest problem last 15 years ... It's my biggest blocker for doing anything more active In context ↗
  • Now: Much betterthis enabled me to exercise more and more and both things helped a lot ... Sometimes some of the symptoms and restless legs come back but it's very rare now In context ↗
  • Began after: nothing they could nameI carry symptoms about this more than 20 years
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Summary

Oak 71996 had leg muscle fatigue and pain for over 20 years, with cramps, cold feet and a crash after exertion, and no CFS diagnosis. Water fasting and a low-carb diet brought some relief in 2017, but a crash after rope jumping and stretching sent them back about half a year; broth and gelatin helped within a week. By 2022, a cleaned-up, almost entirely meat diet and more exercise had made symptoms rare.

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What they tried

Their words about each treatment
  • water fasting · HelpedOnly recently I found fasting + Low carb diet, that made me see a bit of light and come out of the cave In context ↗
  • Low carb diet (LCHF) · HelpedI managed to reduce this stair/going up problem with taking Creatine and GLutamine and LCHF diet, up to now In context ↗
  • Magnesium oxide · No changeI do take 1000mg this days, zero improvements ... I can't find anything better then Magnesium oxide here. In context ↗
  • creatine · HelpedI do take creatine and glutamine and this are like my drugs because once I cut them mild similar symptoms that I have now will apear In context ↗
  • potassium chloride · Not saidI cant overdose with 2000mg it's just that potassium chloride can be hard on the stomach. In context ↗
  • rope jumping and leg stretching · Much worsethe big crash was after the rope jumping and strong stretching of the hamstring and calf In context ↗
  • homemade broth and gelatin · Helpeddid a week with a lot of homemade broth and gelatin and it helped In context ↗
  • cleaned diet, zero processed food, almost 95% meat · Helped a lotcleaned my diet, zero processed food, and went almost 95% meat ... this enabled me to exercise more and more and both things helped a lot In context ↗
  • exercise more and more · Helped a lotthis enabled me to exercise more and more and both things helped a lot In context ↗
  • time · Helpedtime and expectation are important factors In context ↗

Approaches: Diet · Exercise and activity

Their path

What they say at each step doesn’t fit the worst point or outcome above on the severity scale, so the steps are listed as they describe them. Dates are when they posted.

WhenWhat happenedAfter
onsetlong-standing leg muscle fatigue, cramps and pain; out of workSore legs, fatigue legs are my biggest problem last 15 years, ye I carry symptoms about this more than 20 years. In context ↗
about six months before August 2017water fasting and low-carb diet brought some reliefOnly recently I found fasting + Low carb diet, that made me see a bit of light and come out of the cave. In context ↗Extended water fasting (3+ days)
November 2017crashed after rope jumping and strong leg stretching during a 14-day water fastrecently I got very weak in my legs, I can't even hold my weight, a lot of pain and awful fatigue feeling when sitting or standing In context ↗
2017-11-20weakness close to gone after a week of broth and gelatinwas a hard week but the weakness is close to gone now, did a week with a lot of homemade broth and gelatin and it helped In context ↗
2022-04-01cleaned-up near-carnivore diet and more exercise; symptoms now rarecleaned my diet, zero processed food, and went almost 95% meat ... this enabled me to exercise more and more and both things helped a lot In context ↗

Adverse events

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Muscle weaknessrecently I got very weak in my legs, I can't even hold my weight In context ↗
  • Pain & fibromyalgiaIt started with calf cramps, that had prolonged pain and muscle exhaustion on the left calf for days In context ↗
  • Temperature regulationmy calfs, flexor, knees all are hot yet my feet fingers are cold freezing but on touch, they don't feel cold In context ↗
  • Post-exertional malaisethe big crash was after the rope jumping and strong stretching of the hamstring and calf In context ↗

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