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ME/CFS Moderate → somewhat betterIll 18 years before improving or writing

Constant flu-ish symptoms and head pain with ME/CFS, somewhat better off caffeine

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Moderate (mostly housebound)
Ill before improving or writing
18 years
Last post
Jan 2022
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSI think my M.E started about 16 years ago with a big, horrible flu/glandular fever virus. In context ↗
  • At worst: ModerateI try only plan "big" things every other week AT MOST ... when it happens I'll be forced to rest up for 4-6 days anyway In context ↗
  • Now: Somewhat betterI started feeling better when I gave up caffeine actually! In context ↗
  • Began after: glandular fever or EBVI think my M.E started about 16 years ago with a big, horrible flu/glandular fever virus
Read from 7 of their posts and comments; links to the 7 this page draws on

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Summary

A Reddit user ill with ME/CFS since about 2000, after a severe flu or glandular fever virus followed by recurring long viral illnesses that merged into constant flu-ish symptoms and head pain. They credit giving up caffeine with sleeping and feeling better and fewer panic attacks when out. They pace carefully, resting four to six days after big outings, and later switched from citalopram to duloxetine, which they think is causing a dry, sore throat.

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What they tried

Their words about each treatment
  • fish oil omega 3,6&9 · No changeI don't really think I notice much difference though but I'm going to continue until I've finished the tub In context ↗
  • Agnus Castus · Helped a lotI take Agnus Castus for PMT though and that has worked wonders on reducing all my severe symptoms. In context ↗
  • flu jab · No changeThe couple of days after my jab I feel a little bit extra crappy but it's nothing much. In context ↗
  • decongestants · HelpedI've had almost constant pains in my head a bit like a sinus issue, decongestants help, but it never fully develops. In context ↗
  • giving up caffeine · HelpedI started feeling better when I gave up caffeine actually! ... I started feeling and sleeping better and my blood sugar control was better In context ↗
  • careful pacing · HelpedI solve the issue with careful pacing: I try only plan "big" things every other week AT MOST. In context ↗
  • Citalopram · Not saidI've recently switched to Duloxetine from Citalopram In context ↗
  • Duloxetine · WorseI've recently switched to Duloxetine from Citalopram and I think that's what's been causing a terrible dry throat. ... the back of my throat feels scratchy, sore and dry, like I'm swallowing sand paper In context ↗

Approaches: Diet · Pacing

Their path

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How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they were
about 2000ME/CFS began with a big flu/glandular fever virusI think my M.E started about 16 years ago with a big, horrible flu/glandular fever virus. I took months to recover. In context ↗Moderate
October 2016long viral illnesses merged into a constant slightly flu-ish statethe bad periods of illness got longer, and the 'well' periods got shorter so it so started merging together and I was never fully well In context ↗Moderate
January 2019gave up caffeine and felt and slept betterI started feeling better when I gave up caffeine actually! In context ↗Mild
January 2022switched from citalopram to duloxetine, dry sore throatI've recently switched to Duloxetine from Citalopram and I think that's what's been causing a terrible dry throat. In context ↗Moderate

Adverse events

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Post-exertional malaisethe PEM which takes longer to develop and is longer lasting but more low key In context ↗
  • Sleep problemsTrouble is sometimes I physically can't stay awake In context ↗
  • Headaches & migraineI've had almost constant pains in my head a bit like a sinus issue In context ↗
  • Pain & fibromyalgiaI also, always awake in very bad pain In context ↗
  • Anxiety & low moodI linked my panic attacks and anxiety when I was out of the house to the caffeine too In context ↗
  • Flu-like symptomsI'm constantly in a state of slightly flu-ish In context ↗

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