Everyone · 568 people
How it went for everyone who tried one of its treatments
Helped means they said it helped with what they took it for, which may be one symptom and not the illness. Each person counts once: someone who tried several of these treatments is split equally across those they said how it went for.
Shares are out of the 426 people who said how it went for at least one of them, each counted once, the parts rounded to whole people. 142 more tried one or credit the approach without saying how it went.
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| How it went | People | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Helped a lot | 55 | 13% |
| Helped | 154 | 36% |
| No change | 92 | 22% |
| Worse | 112 | 26% |
| Much worse | 13 | 3% |
Everyone · 162 people
Among the 162 who credit it with their improvement, here’s how they are now
Credit it means they say it’s one reason they got better.
Where each person was at the end of their story, or in their latest post that says how they are, compared with their worst point.
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| Outcome described | People | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Recovered | 8 | 5% |
| Near normal | 32 | 20% |
| Much better | 46 | 28% |
| Somewhat better | 50 | 31% |
| Relapsed | 26 | 16% |
Did it last?
- 18 of 162 said the benefit of a treatment in this approach wore off (11 of them among the 26 who relapsed).
- 76 of 162 say they still need to keep doing something (not always one in this approach) to stay well.
Read from what people wrote, and the more someone wrote, the more likely they are to mention it. Some people stop posting before saying, so the real number may be higher.
Long COVID · 446 people
How it went for everyone who tried one of its treatments
Helped means they said it helped with what they took it for, which may be one symptom and not the illness. Each person counts once: someone who tried several of these treatments is split equally across those they said how it went for.
Shares are out of the 330 people who said how it went for at least one of them, each counted once, the parts rounded to whole people. 116 more tried one or credit the approach without saying how it went.
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| How it went | People | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Helped a lot | 40 | 12% |
| Helped | 133 | 40% |
| No change | 73 | 22% |
| Worse | 77 | 24% |
| Much worse | 7 | 2% |
Long COVID · 141 people
Among the 141 who credit it with their improvement, here’s how they are now
Credit it means they say it’s one reason they got better.
Where each person was at the end of their story, or in their latest post that says how they are, compared with their worst point.
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| Outcome described | People | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Recovered | 6 | 4% |
| Near normal | 31 | 22% |
| Much better | 40 | 28% |
| Somewhat better | 42 | 30% |
| Relapsed | 22 | 16% |
Did it last?
- 12 of 141 said the benefit of a treatment in this approach wore off (8 of them among the 22 who relapsed).
- 67 of 141 say they still need to keep doing something (not always one in this approach) to stay well.
Read from what people wrote, and the more someone wrote, the more likely they are to mention it. Some people stop posting before saying, so the real number may be higher.
ME/CFS · 120 people
How it went for everyone who tried one of its treatments
Helped means they said it helped with what they took it for, which may be one symptom and not the illness. Each person counts once: someone who tried several of these treatments is split equally across those they said how it went for.
Shares are out of the 94 people who said how it went for at least one of them, each counted once, the parts rounded to whole people. 26 more tried one or credit the approach without saying how it went.
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| How it went | People | Share |
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| Helped a lot | 14 | 15% |
| Helped | 21 | 22% |
| No change | 18 | 19% |
| Worse | 35 | 38% |
| Much worse | 6 | 6% |
ME/CFS · 20 people
Among the 20 who credit it with their improvement, here’s how they are now
Credit it means they say it’s one reason they got better.
Where each person was at the end of their story, or in their latest post that says how they are, compared with their worst point.
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| Outcome described | People | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Recovered | 2 | 10% |
| Near normal | 1 | 5% |
| Much better | 6 | 30% |
| Somewhat better | 8 | 40% |
| Relapsed | 3 | 15% |
Did it last?
- 6 of 20 said the benefit of a treatment in this approach wore off (including the 3 who relapsed).
- 8 of 20 say they still need to keep doing something (not always one in this approach) to stay well.
Read from what people wrote, and the more someone wrote, the more likely they are to mention it. Some people stop posting before saying, so the real number may be higher.
Everyone · not split by condition
By how ill people were
Only the 162 who credit this approach, so people it didn’t help or made worse aren’t here. How they are now is their outcome overall.
| Severity at worst | How they are now | n | Recovered or near normal |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mild | 24 | 21% | |
| Moderate | 42 | 29% | |
| Severe | 57 | 26% | |
| Very severe | 6 | 0%, few people | |
| Not stated | 33 | 24% |
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| At worst | Outcome | People | Share |
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| Mild | Recovered | 1 of 24 | 4% |
| Mild | Near normal | 4 of 24 | 17% |
| Mild | Much better | 4 of 24 | 17% |
| Mild | Somewhat better | 9 of 24 | 37% |
| Mild | Relapsed | 6 of 24 | 25% |
| Moderate | Recovered | 3 of 42 | 7% |
| Moderate | Near normal | 9 of 42 | 22% |
| Moderate | Much better | 15 of 42 | 36% |
| Moderate | Somewhat better | 9 of 42 | 21% |
| Moderate | Relapsed | 6 of 42 | 14% |
| Severe | Recovered | 3 of 57 | 5% |
| Severe | Near normal | 12 of 57 | 21% |
| Severe | Much better | 21 of 57 | 37% |
| Severe | Somewhat better | 14 of 57 | 25% |
| Severe | Relapsed | 7 of 57 | 12% |
| Very severe | Much better | 1 of 6 | 17% |
| Very severe | Somewhat better | 1 of 6 | 16% |
| Very severe | Relapsed | 4 of 6 | 67% |
| Not stated | Recovered | 1 of 33 | 3% |
| Not stated | Near normal | 7 of 33 | 21% |
| Not stated | Much better | 5 of 33 | 15% |
| Not stated | Somewhat better | 17 of 33 | 52% |
| Not stated | Relapsed | 3 of 33 | 9% |
Everyone · not split by condition
Treatments in this approach
The bar (How it went) and the line under each name are among everyone on the site who tried it and said how it went, the same numbers as on each treatment’s own page. Recovered and Faded are among the people here who credit it. Grey numbers rest on fewer than 10 people; a faded share in red is a third or more.
Everyone · 162 people
20 of the 162 people
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Housebound with ME/CFS and brain fog, now much better with pacing and antihistamines
Ill from March 2020, they were housebound with POTS, brain fog and PEM early on, and in May 2023 said treatments had taken them from about 30% to 70% of normal. Blood thinners, guanfacine, antihistamines, continuous progesterone, pacing and other medications…
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Debilitated by long COVID with PEM and brain fog, now much better; clonidine helped
A man in his fifties with ME/CFS after COVID in July 2022 had four rough months before a booster brought full recovery, then cycles of relapse and partial recovery. A September 2023 sickness left him debilitated and forced early retirement. PEM, fatigue and…
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Largely bedridden with long COVID, now somewhat better on antivirals
She developed long COVID in 2022 after two COVID infections, and after a booster in November 2024 became largely bedridden and wheelchair-dependent; a mini stroke and a Sjögren's diagnosis followed. TMS, Plaquenil, peptides, nattokinase, antivirals and a…
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ME/CFS, brain fog and POTS after COVID; much better, credits naltrexone, aripiprazole
COVID in March 2020 led to ME/CFS, brain fog, POTS and fatigue; they worked lying down and could not watch TV. A methylprednisolone taper helped night sweats and sound sensitivity, while aripiprazole, low-dose naltrexone and oral ketotifen cleared the brain…
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Long COVID with POTS and MCAS that nearly killed her, improved to 90% then relapsed
Kestrel 13581 fell ill at 19 after a COVID vaccine in December 2021, with numbness, breathlessness, POTS and MCAS that nearly killed her and ended her nursery-teaching apprenticeship. Statins, sartans, low-dose naltrexone and a ketogenic diet brought her to…
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Long COVID head pain and twitching, much better after heart and POTS symptoms resolved
Fell ill after two Pfizer doses and worsened after a COVID infection and a flu. For over two years they had head pressure, stabbing brain pain, body-wide twitching, neuropathy, nausea and suicidal depression, with a month in a psychiatric ward. Statins,…
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Long COVID insomnia and adrenaline surges, much better at about 80% after pacing
Infected in March 2020, he developed mild long COVID dominated by two years of severe insomnia and night-time adrenaline surges, while working full time from home. From 2023 he paced strictly, did daily nervous-system work (yin yoga, breathing, meditation,…
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Long COVID, relapsed and largely housebound; statins and antihistamines helped walking
After mild long COVID from August 2020 with fatigue and difficulty walking, they recovered by March 2022, then relapsed far worse after a viral illness that December. They went on to have PEM, brain fog, tinnitus and histamine problems; a cold lowered their…
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Long COVID with seizures and memory loss, somewhat better with LDN and tai chi
Birch 82723 caught COVID in 2021 after vaccination and was left without smell or taste, with seizures, severe neuroinflammation, memory loss, gut problems and lost peripheral vision, and retired early. Low-dose naltrexone restored smell and taste within a…
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Housebound with long COVID and off work, now recovered after maraviroc and statins
A man in his late 30s caught COVID in April 2022 and developed long COVID with fatigue attacks, brain fog and leg weakness; the fatigue left him housebound and off work. From July 2022 he took maraviroc, pravastatin, clopidogrel and famciclovir through a…
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Long COVID with chest pain and neurological issues, much better after statins and aspirin
A Reddit user who had long COVID with chest pain and neurological issues later had several strokes from small vessel disease. After the strokes, statins, aspirin and blood thinners left the long COVID symptoms much better, though stroke damage remained. By…
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Long COVID worst in 2021, now somewhat better after maraviroc and ivermectin
A UK marathon runner who fell ill with long COVID in April 2020 was worst in 2021, before a maraviroc, ivermectin and pravastatin course cleared spike protein from their monocytes and raised lymphocytes. Reinfection brought problems back, and two…
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Bedridden with ME/CFS, now much better with low-dose naltrexone
A German man fell ill in April 2021, aged 21, after a tick bite and a COVID vaccination, with facial numbness, palpitations, PEM and constant thirst. A July 2023 workout crash left him bedridden, and he was diagnosed with ME/CFS. Atorvastatin helped briefly;…
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Bedbound and housebound with long COVID, now somewhat better with EECP and nitrates
Fox 15054 fell ill with COVID-19 in March 2020, was bedbound at first, then fluctuated between housebound and bedbound, and became bedridden after a 2021 reinfection. She had frequent relapses and repeated reinfections; two vaccine doses and reinfections set…
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Long COVID with gastritis and reflux, no sport, now much better after naltrexone and diet
Orchid 33000 got long COVID in 2023 with gastritis, reflux, bloating and food intolerances, and could no longer do sport. Naltrexone, propranolol, famotidine, atorvastatin and a low-inflammation diet brought them to about 90%. Tennis without pacing and a…
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Housebound with long COVID, now much better on low-histamine diet and antihistamines
A Los Angeles man developed long COVID with POTS, MCAS and constant dizziness in 2022, becoming housebound and lying down about 75% of the day. A low-histamine diet plus H1/H2 antihistamines (Claritin, Pepcid) gave the biggest gains; by 2025 he worked from…
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Long COVID with heart racing and dysautonomia, now much better with rosuvastatin
A physician who developed long COVID around 2023 and was still ill 3.5 years later, with PVCs, heart racing on standing, exercise intolerance and dysautonomia, and setbacks after every infection. Metoprolol, propafenone, antihistamines and electrolytes…
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Bedbound with long COVID, now close to normal after mast cell stabilizers and less EMF
Reddit user caught COVID in 2020, recovered after about nine months, then was reinfected in 2022 and became mostly bedbound with brain inflammation, body flares and exercise intolerance. Mast cell stabilizers (oral cromolyn, ketotifen), antihistamines and…
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Long COVID with PEM, POTS and exhaustion, much better after herbal supplement and statin
After a COVID infection in August 2025, having already been at what they called 'negative 50', they developed long COVID with PEM, POTS, gut problems, joint pain and exhaustion. A Chinese medicine herbal supplement (about $1200 a month), then a statin with…
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Long COVID with POTS and neuropathy, much better after IgG food cuts and rosuvastatin
After COVID vaccinations and a course of nitrofurantoin they believe they developed POTS, MCAS and neuropathy, stayed home a lot and ate a low-histamine diet with antihistamines. POTS eased after about six months, then returned after influenza A in early…
The newest 20 people who credit statins.
Long COVID · 141 people
20 of the 141 people
See all 141 stories-
Debilitated by long COVID with PEM and brain fog, now much better; clonidine helped
A man in his fifties with ME/CFS after COVID in July 2022 had four rough months before a booster brought full recovery, then cycles of relapse and partial recovery. A September 2023 sickness left him debilitated and forced early retirement. PEM, fatigue and…
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Largely bedridden with long COVID, now somewhat better on antivirals
She developed long COVID in 2022 after two COVID infections, and after a booster in November 2024 became largely bedridden and wheelchair-dependent; a mini stroke and a Sjögren's diagnosis followed. TMS, Plaquenil, peptides, nattokinase, antivirals and a…
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Long COVID with POTS and MCAS that nearly killed her, improved to 90% then relapsed
Kestrel 13581 fell ill at 19 after a COVID vaccine in December 2021, with numbness, breathlessness, POTS and MCAS that nearly killed her and ended her nursery-teaching apprenticeship. Statins, sartans, low-dose naltrexone and a ketogenic diet brought her to…
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Long COVID head pain and twitching, much better after heart and POTS symptoms resolved
Fell ill after two Pfizer doses and worsened after a COVID infection and a flu. For over two years they had head pressure, stabbing brain pain, body-wide twitching, neuropathy, nausea and suicidal depression, with a month in a psychiatric ward. Statins,…
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Long COVID insomnia and adrenaline surges, much better at about 80% after pacing
Infected in March 2020, he developed mild long COVID dominated by two years of severe insomnia and night-time adrenaline surges, while working full time from home. From 2023 he paced strictly, did daily nervous-system work (yin yoga, breathing, meditation,…
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Long COVID, relapsed and largely housebound; statins and antihistamines helped walking
After mild long COVID from August 2020 with fatigue and difficulty walking, they recovered by March 2022, then relapsed far worse after a viral illness that December. They went on to have PEM, brain fog, tinnitus and histamine problems; a cold lowered their…
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Long COVID with seizures and memory loss, somewhat better with LDN and tai chi
Birch 82723 caught COVID in 2021 after vaccination and was left without smell or taste, with seizures, severe neuroinflammation, memory loss, gut problems and lost peripheral vision, and retired early. Low-dose naltrexone restored smell and taste within a…
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Housebound with long COVID and off work, now recovered after maraviroc and statins
A man in his late 30s caught COVID in April 2022 and developed long COVID with fatigue attacks, brain fog and leg weakness; the fatigue left him housebound and off work. From July 2022 he took maraviroc, pravastatin, clopidogrel and famciclovir through a…
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Long COVID with chest pain and neurological issues, much better after statins and aspirin
A Reddit user who had long COVID with chest pain and neurological issues later had several strokes from small vessel disease. After the strokes, statins, aspirin and blood thinners left the long COVID symptoms much better, though stroke damage remained. By…
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Long COVID worst in 2021, now somewhat better after maraviroc and ivermectin
A UK marathon runner who fell ill with long COVID in April 2020 was worst in 2021, before a maraviroc, ivermectin and pravastatin course cleared spike protein from their monocytes and raised lymphocytes. Reinfection brought problems back, and two…
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Bedbound and housebound with long COVID, now somewhat better with EECP and nitrates
Fox 15054 fell ill with COVID-19 in March 2020, was bedbound at first, then fluctuated between housebound and bedbound, and became bedridden after a 2021 reinfection. She had frequent relapses and repeated reinfections; two vaccine doses and reinfections set…
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Long COVID with gastritis and reflux, no sport, now much better after naltrexone and diet
Orchid 33000 got long COVID in 2023 with gastritis, reflux, bloating and food intolerances, and could no longer do sport. Naltrexone, propranolol, famotidine, atorvastatin and a low-inflammation diet brought them to about 90%. Tennis without pacing and a…
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Housebound with long COVID, now much better on low-histamine diet and antihistamines
A Los Angeles man developed long COVID with POTS, MCAS and constant dizziness in 2022, becoming housebound and lying down about 75% of the day. A low-histamine diet plus H1/H2 antihistamines (Claritin, Pepcid) gave the biggest gains; by 2025 he worked from…
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Long COVID with heart racing and dysautonomia, now much better with rosuvastatin
A physician who developed long COVID around 2023 and was still ill 3.5 years later, with PVCs, heart racing on standing, exercise intolerance and dysautonomia, and setbacks after every infection. Metoprolol, propafenone, antihistamines and electrolytes…
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Bedbound with long COVID, now close to normal after mast cell stabilizers and less EMF
Reddit user caught COVID in 2020, recovered after about nine months, then was reinfected in 2022 and became mostly bedbound with brain inflammation, body flares and exercise intolerance. Mast cell stabilizers (oral cromolyn, ketotifen), antihistamines and…
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Long COVID with PEM, POTS and exhaustion, much better after herbal supplement and statin
After a COVID infection in August 2025, having already been at what they called 'negative 50', they developed long COVID with PEM, POTS, gut problems, joint pain and exhaustion. A Chinese medicine herbal supplement (about $1200 a month), then a statin with…
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Long COVID with POTS and neuropathy, much better after IgG food cuts and rosuvastatin
After COVID vaccinations and a course of nitrofurantoin they believe they developed POTS, MCAS and neuropathy, stayed home a lot and ate a low-histamine diet with antihistamines. POTS eased after about six months, then returned after influenza A in early…
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Long COVID with memory loss and visual symptoms, somewhat better with combined treatments
Comet 72824 has had long COVID with neurological symptoms since December 2022: memory loss, poor mental visualisation, visual snow, afterimages, insomnia and dissociation. The insomnia eased on its own after about two months, though it occasionally flares.…
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Long COVID with panic attacks and breathlessness, now recovered after maraviroc and statin
A 35-year-old man developed long COVID after an Omicron infection around Christmas 2021, with sinus inflammation, panic attacks, palpitations, breathlessness and exercise intolerance. Niacin helped early; maraviroc and a statin calmed symptoms. He stopped…
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Bedridden with long COVID, now nearly back to normal on maraviroc and Rinvoq
A second COVID infection in July 2024 led to PEM, fatigue, aches, neuropathy and double vision a month later, plus POTS-like symptoms; they became bedridden with pain, malaise and fatigue and lost weight from 220 to 162 lbs. A Pfizer booster left them worse…
The newest 20 people with long COVID who credit statins.
ME/CFS · 20 people
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Housebound with ME/CFS and brain fog, now much better with pacing and antihistamines
Ill from March 2020, they were housebound with POTS, brain fog and PEM early on, and in May 2023 said treatments had taken them from about 30% to 70% of normal. Blood thinners, guanfacine, antihistamines, continuous progesterone, pacing and other medications…
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ME/CFS, brain fog and POTS after COVID; much better, credits naltrexone, aripiprazole
COVID in March 2020 led to ME/CFS, brain fog, POTS and fatigue; they worked lying down and could not watch TV. A methylprednisolone taper helped night sweats and sound sensitivity, while aripiprazole, low-dose naltrexone and oral ketotifen cleared the brain…
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Bedridden with ME/CFS, now much better with low-dose naltrexone
A German man fell ill in April 2021, aged 21, after a tick bite and a COVID vaccination, with facial numbness, palpitations, PEM and constant thirst. A July 2023 workout crash left him bedridden, and he was diagnosed with ME/CFS. Atorvastatin helped briefly;…
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ME/CFS, somewhat better with fisetin and rosuvastatin
Over about six months in 2026 this user reported several supplements and drugs and credited most with benefit. Fisetin (1.5 g with full-fat yoghurt) helped significantly after a 24-48 hour energy dip, they took weekly rapamycin 2-6 mg, and rosuvastatin…
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Bedbound with ME/CFS, now much better with strict pacing and LDN
Glade 43125, in the UK, developed ME after a COVID infection in December 2022. Mild at first, they crashed to severe by April 2023: bedbound in a dark, silent room with a commode, unable to use screens. They credit strict pacing to avoid PEM, plus LDN,…
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Very severe ME/CFS, now somewhat better with supplements and drugs but still bedbound
They fell ill with ME/CFS in 2018 and became very severe at 21 after a bad reaction to a medication, with PEM, POTS and cognitive fatigue. Supplements and drugs including nitric oxide boosters, high-dose thiamine, LDN, Florinef, ivabradine and cromolyn…
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Housebound with ME/CFS, somewhat better with antihistamines and low-histamine diet
A Canadian living in Jakarta fell ill in early 2020 with fatigue, diarrhoea, dizziness and brain fog, reaching about 80% function in 2021. After probable Omicron and a booster they crashed in 2022 and became housebound, unable to work or walk more than five…
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Severe and bed bound with ME/CFS, now somewhat better on a statin with ezetimibe
Oak 21807 had ME/CFS for 15 years, with lifelong symptoms, and was severe and bed bound, unable to work, exercise or see friends. In 2026 she began improving on a statin with ezetimibe plus serrapeptase and lumbrokinase, after a few weeks of worsening on the…
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ME/CFS with hypoglycaemia and PEM, somewhat better after statins and phosphatidylcholine
A Reddit user with ME/CFS described hypoglycaemia after eating and post-exertional malaise. They took statins, which they obtained outside normal medical channels, plus phosphatidylcholine; the hypoglycaemias stopped within four days on their CGM. After…
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Bedridden with ME/CFS and unable to talk, somewhat better after statins and ezetimibe
Bedridden for many years with ME/CFS and at worst unable to talk, they had been ill about 20 years and spent years on unhelpful treatments. They credit statins for high cholesterol, ezetimibe, nattokinase/lumbrokinase, a Portfolio diet and blood thinners…
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Long COVID improved with statin and exercise, then relapsed toward severe ME/CFS
Trail 93705 got long COVID after COVID in April 2021 and was reinfected repeatedly. They recovered about 80% twice, and in 2022 a statin plus exercise got them to about 70%, until typhoid in September 2022 caused a relapse that never resolved. Later…
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Bedbound with severe ME/CFS, now much better after codeine and Mestinon
A Canadian man developed ME/CFS in September 2023 after COVID vaccinations and was diagnosed with ME and POTS in March 2024. Initially mild, he became bedbound and severe, which he partly blamed on 16 months of LDN. He was mild by December 2025 after codeine…
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Bedbound or housebound with ME/CFS for about two years, much better after immunoadsorption
Wave 75121 fell ill in August 2021 after a second mRNA vaccination, and was bedbound or housebound for about two years with PEM, sore throat, freezing and brain fog. Low-carb diet and fasting, telmisartan, hyperbaric oxygen and, above all, immunoadsorption…
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Progressively disabled by ME/CFS over 16 years, improved on Xeljanz then relapsed
ME/CFS had made them progressively more disabled over 16 years, with POTS, hypothyroidism, refractory migraine and overactive bladder. Xeljanz improved their insomnia, exhaustion and bladder within a week, but the benefit faded after about 6.5 months, and a…
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Bedridden relapses with ME/CFS, now nearly back to normal with benfotiamine and fasting
Glade 63203 caught COVID in February 2020 and developed long COVID from March, with five months of breathlessness, orthostatic intolerance and bedridden relapses, then months of brain pressure and 1.5 years of brain fog. They credit intermittent fasting,…
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ME/CFS housebound then bedridden, modest help from maraviroc, worse after surgery
Eagle 88791 fell ill with a virus in October 2009, aged 31, and cycled through remissions and relapses for over a decade, including a two-year remission working full time. She relapsed in March 2022, caught COVID that summer and became housebound, then…
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Exercise-triggered ME/CFS with sleepiness, now recovered on covidlonghaulers.com protocol
After mild COVID-19 in January 2021 his fatigue worsened, and exercising pushed him into CFS by May 2021. At his worst he slept 12 hours a day, drank five coffees and still could not stay awake in work meetings. A year on the covidlonghaulers.com protocol,…
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Exhausted, foggy and napping daily with ME/CFS, now somewhat better
A male athlete in his mid 30s fell ill with an EBV reactivation in late 2019 and was later diagnosed with ME/CFS, exhausted, foggy and napping daily, out on disability. Months of antivirals did nothing; testosterone gave energy but crashes and side effects.…
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Atorvastatin -- Could It Work For Anyone Else?
Hopefulone had moderate ME/CFS from glandular fever in 1994, resting or sleeping 13 hours in every 24. After a stroke in September 2019 they were given atorvastatin in hospital, credit it for their improvement, and noticed it within days. By January 2020…
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Statins for CFS?
Chris, in Victoria BC, realised he had CFS after an illness that began in December 2006 with chest pain. He regained most of his energy on Lipitor, but said the gains slowly faded after he switched to pravastatin. In 2011 he resumed 10 mg of Lipitor every…