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ME/CFS Severe → somewhat betterIll 17 years before improving or writingNeeds ongoing treatment

ME/CFS with 18-hour sleeps and PEM, now somewhat better after diet changes and PEA

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Severe (mostly bedbound)
Ill before improving or writing
17 years
Last post
Mar 2025
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSled to my CFS diagnosis in 2008 In context ↗
  • At worst: SevereI rode on a train for the first time in over 3 years! In context ↗
  • Now: Somewhat betterI rode on a train for the first time in over 3 years! In context ↗
  • Began after: another virusthe initial onset virus that left me sleeping 18 hours a day and led to my CFS diagnosis in 2008 In context ↗
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Summary

Osprey 59020 fell ill in 2008 after a virus that left them sleeping 18 hours a day and led to a CFS diagnosis. They remained noise-sensitive and prone to PEM, pacing with a heart-rate watch and using noise-cancelling headphones. An elimination diet cutting dairy and sugar helped, and cutting sugar reduced muscle pain and PEM flares; PEA took the edge off chronic pain. In 2024 they managed a short train ride, and in 2025 they had their best sleep since onset.

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What they tried

Also tried

Sony WH 1000 XM3 noise cancelling headphones· HelpedLoop buds· HelpedGarmin Venu 3· HelpedPEA supplement (PEA 600)· HelpedSPM Active· Helpeddigestive enzymes/vege enzymes· No changeNilstat/Nystatin and antifungal courses· Worseantibiotics· Worseprebiotics/probiotics· Not said
Their words about each treatment
  • Sony WH 1000 XM3 noise cancelling headphones · HelpedThey've been the most helpful tool I've bought for managing ME/CFS related stuff by far. In context ↗
  • Loop buds · HelpedI've tried Loop buds in those scenarios before and they do block noise pretty well In context ↗
  • Nilstat/Nystatin and antifungal courses · Worseover the counter stuff like Nilstat/Nystatin (which made it worse) In context ↗
  • prebiotics/probiotics · Not saidvarious prebiotics/probiotics In context ↗
  • antibiotics · Worsea few courses of antibiotics/anti-fungals which absolutely destroyed my immune system In context ↗
  • digestive enzymes/vege enzymes · No changeDidn't do anything for my tongue In context ↗
  • elimination diet · Helped a lotThe most effective thing for me in the end was an elimination diet. ... Cutting sugar has massively reduced the severity of my day to day muscle pain and PEM flares though In context ↗
  • Garmin Venu 3 · HelpedGot a Garmin Venu 3 about two weeks ago for much the same reason as you ... It's been excellent for heart rate tracking so far. In context ↗
  • PEA supplement (PEA 600) · HelpedI've had some success with a PEA supplement (PEA 600) ... By itself, the PEA slightly dulls my day to day muscle and joint pain. In context ↗
  • SPM Active · Helpedanother supplement called SPM Active which helps with PEM recovery In context ↗
  • pacing · HelpedI've had much more success with pacing by using the HR graph than anything else. In context ↗

Approaches: Diet · Pacing

Their path

Very severeSevereModerateMildNear normalRecoveredonset3 y6 y9 y12 y15 y

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they wereAfter
2008viral onset, sleeping 18 hours a day, CFS diagnosisthe initial onset virus that left me sleeping 18 hours a day and led to my CFS diagnosis in 2008 In context ↗Severe
2024-07-31ate a gluten-free, dairy-free pastry without a big crash, first croissant in almost a decadeI had a croissant for the first time in almost a decade! And it only gave me some little jitters instead of a big crash! In context ↗Moderate
2024-08-21first train ride in over three yearsI rode on a train for the first time in over 3 years! In context ↗Moderate
2025-02-28best patch of sleep since onset after schedule adjustment and pacingIt's easily the best patch of sleep I've had since the initial onset virus In context ↗ModeratePacing and the energy envelope

Adverse events

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Post-exertional malaiseif there's a reading over 106 bpm in the last 48 hours, I'm going to be dealing with PEM In context ↗
  • Light & noise sensitivitythey've been life-changing for this very noise sensitive person In context ↗
  • Pain & fibromyalgiathe PEA slightly dulls my day to day muscle and joint pain In context ↗
  • Sleep problemsI'm a neurodivergent night owl who sleeps lightly In context ↗
  • Brain fogMore info to process when I've got the brain space to do it. In context ↗
  • Gut problemsdigestive issues and months of constant UTIs In context ↗
  • Anxiety & low moodthe songs I was listening to when extremely depressed or dissociating In context ↗
  • POTS & dysautonomiahow much of an impact bending down and standing up to load the dishwasher or washing machine have on my HR In context ↗

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