ME/CFS
Severe → no benefit
Severe PEM and crashes with ME/CFS, no benefit from Chinese herbal tonics
- Condition
- ME/CFS
- At worst
- Severe (mostly bedbound)
- Ill for
- Not stated
- Last post
- Oct 2026
In their words
- Condition: ME/CFS
I think yang tonics and yin tonics are key for severe PEM (in my experience anyways)
In context ↗ - At worst: Severe
I think yang tonics and yin tonics are key for severe PEM (in my experience anyways)
In context ↗ - Now: No benefit
the same company also makes a formula called AllTonic which I find to be less intense and def has helped my intense crashes
In context ↗
Read from 6 of their posts and comments; links to the 5 this page draws on
Summary
A person with ME/CFS reported severe PEM and intense crashes, ongoing pain, wonky sleep and cold sensitivity, relying on family caregivers at home. They credited Chinese herbal yang tonics, including Youngain and AllTonic from ActiveHerb, as very helpful for PEM and crashes, and used cinnamon and ginger for feeling cold. Later comments described decorating a bedroom over 4+ years with remote blinds and sheepskins.
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What they tried
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- Youngain (ActiveHerb) · Helped
the formula called Youngain from ActiveHerb has been very helpful for me
In context ↗ - AllTonic · Helped
def has helped my intense crashes
In context ↗ - remote controlled blinds · Helped
it has been a game changer for autonomy and to support my wonky sleep cycles
In context ↗ - moving to a quieter/rural house · Not said
we moved to a quieter/rural house for healing support
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Their path
How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, in the order they describe; they don’t give enough times to place each step. Hover or tap a point. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.
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| When | What happened | Where they were |
|---|---|---|
| — | ME/CFS with severe PEM, intense crashes, pain and poor sleepyang tonics and yin tonics are key for severe PEM (in my experience anyways)In context ↗ | Severe |
| 2025-02-28 | Chinese herbal yang tonics helped PEM and crashesthe formula called Youngain from ActiveHerb has been very helpful for meIn context ↗ | Severe |
| 2026-10-24 | still troubled by the cold in autumn; manages with cinnamon, ginger and warm clothingive been noticing it more this fallIn context ↗ | Severe |
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Post-exertional malaise
yang tonics and yin tonics are key for severe PEM (in my experience anyways)
In context ↗ - Pain & fibromyalgia
Sheepskins to sleep on (expensive but helpful for my pain and keeping me warm in winter)
In context ↗ - Sleep problems
to support my wonky sleep cycles
In context ↗ - Temperature regulation
keeping me warm in winter
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