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ME/CFS Moderate → somewhat betterIll 3 years before improving or writingNeeds ongoing treatment

Mostly at home with ME/CFS, now somewhat better after staying inside energy envelope

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Moderate (mostly housebound)
Ill before improving or writing
3 years
Last post
Oct 2020
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSI don’t have an official MECFS diagnosis, although I meet the dx criteria and have PEM like nobody’s business. In context ↗
  • At worst: ModerateI do very little in my energy envelope and I’m always at home In context ↗
  • Now: Somewhat betterI’m just glad to have gotten to a point where I don’t constantly feel like I’m dying or wondering if I can get myself home, but it’s likely that’s the case because I do very little in my energy envelope and I’m always at home In context ↗
  • Began after: nothing they could namethis thing called post-exertional malaise has defined my life for the past two years, and intermittently for much, much longer than that In context ↗
Read from 18 of their posts and comments; links to the 13 this page draws on

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Summary

Tundra 18840 had post-exertional malaise for about two years alongside dysautonomia, hEDS, narcolepsy and migraine, while still working. A major crash in January 2020 left them mostly at home and too tired even for therapy. Withdrawing from social contact and staying inside their energy envelope eased their constant feeling of mortal peril, but they still did little and stayed home. They took vitamin D2, B12, protein powder and electrolyte drinks.

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What they tried

Their words about each treatment
  • B12 supplementation · No changeI’ve taken more B12 than now in the past without *wow* results In context ↗
  • rx D2 and D3 supplements · Helpedmy joints hurt less when I take 50 000 iu of rx D2, but not the same of D3 In context ↗
  • Provigil · WorseI thought provig was great until I tried nuvig and realized the other had been body-slamming me for a year In context ↗
  • Nuvigil · HelpedNuvigil works for me; it doesn’t for some of my relatives. In context ↗
  • Strattera · No changeIt didn’t do a whole lot for me on either front In context ↗
  • Xyrem · Helpedwhen I manage my narcolepsy with meds (Xyrem especially with daytime meds too), I rarely dream, rarely get night sweats In context ↗
  • therapy · HelpedI found therapy helpful when I worked with someone fluent in chronic health issues. In context ↗
  • energy envelope / pacing · Helpedit’s likely that’s the case because I do very little in my energy envelope and I’m always at home In context ↗
  • TriOral ORS, Normalyte and Gatorade · HelpedMy daily go-to is TriOral ORS. ... This stuff is such a lifesaver. In context ↗
  • very light PT · Not saiddoing very light PT (supine muscle flexes, working with stretchy band) if I feel like it to keep from dislocating In context ↗
  • NeilMed saline sinus rinse · HelpedMy regular/ideal routine is NeilMed brand saline sinus rinse in a can In context ↗
  • Flonase Sensimist · HelpedFlonase Sensimist for allergies and boggy ears In context ↗

Approaches: Pacing

Their path

Very severeSevereModerateMildNear normalRecoveredonset12 mo2 y

How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they wereAfter
2017post-exertional malaise becomes constant; still workingthis thing called post-exertional malaise has defined my life for the past two years, and intermittently for much, much longer than that In context ↗Mild
2019-12still sputtering to work, needs pacing guidancecurrently sputtering to work, need guidance In context ↗Mild
2020-01major crash; unsure they can bounce backEarlier this month, I started a major crash and I’m starting to realize I may not be able to just bounce back. In context ↗Moderate
2020-06too fatigued even to get to therapyI got to the point where literally *going* to therapy, not even being in therapy or doing therapy work, was too much In context ↗Moderate
2020-07withdrew from social contact and stayed inside their energy envelope; constant mortal peril feeling easedA large part of my recovery has been withdrawing from the usual interpersonal interactions and it has been so helpful. ... I do very little in my energy envelope and I’m always at homeModeratePacing and the energy envelope

Adverse events

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Post-exertional malaisepost-exertional malaise has defined my life for the past two years In context ↗
  • Brain fogHad a longer question/background info started but brain fog derailed it In context ↗
  • POTS & dysautonomiaThrough my discovery/dx process for dysautonomia & Ehlers-Danlos (hEDS) In context ↗
  • Sleep problemsI’m also highly susceptible to summer insomnia/winter conking out at 4 PM until 8 AM if not medicated In context ↗
  • Pain & fibromyalgiamy joints hurt less when I take 50 000 iu of rx D2 In context ↗
  • Headaches & migraine(hEDS, dysautonomia, narcolepsy yes it’s different from fatigue, migraines, CPTSD, ASD In context ↗
  • Gut problemsI’ve also been having gastro issues and rely on nutritional shakes because actual food makes bad things happen In context ↗
  • Mast cell (MCAS) & allergiesprobable mast cell shenanigans In context ↗
  • Heart symptoms & palpitationsRegular Ensure gives me tachycardia In context ↗
  • Flu-like symptomsHoney in my tea also helps soothe my throat if I get the overdone-it scratchies In context ↗
  • Anxiety & low moodit took about 2 months of shut down to get over the constant mortal peril feeling In context ↗

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