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ME/CFS Moderate → much betterIll 1 year before improving or writing

Profound fatigue, PEM and brain fog with ME/CFS, now much better after mindset and vagal work

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Moderate (mostly housebound)
Ill before improving or writing
1 year
Last post
Apr 2026
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSBy accident, I listened to a podcast about me/cfs co-hosted by Dr. Howard Schubiner that completely changed my perspective on this. In context ↗
  • At worst: ModerateIt’s really insane to go from running 5 miles no big deal 4x a week and gym on alternating days with lots of activity besides to….just rotting. In context ↗
  • Now: Much betterFor me, the mindset shift saved me. No more crashes but very mild vague symptoms and the full conviction that this is FOR ME—- dysautonomia. In context ↗
Read from 3 of their posts and comments; links to the 3 this page draws on

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Summary

They had fatigue in 2025 with borderline-low iron, and iron IV infusions made them feel great. In January 2026 they crashed with profound fatigue, PEM, pain everywhere, brain fog and headaches, and by February had muscle and joint pain and meh and exhausted days. After hearing Dr. Howard Schubiner on a podcast they shifted their mindset and did emotional and vagal work; by April 2026 they reported no more crashes, only very mild vague symptoms.

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What they tried

Also tried

iron IV infusions· HelpedMed mj· Helpedoral iron· Worseemotional and “vagal” work· Not said
Their words about each treatment
  • oral iron · WorseCannot tolerate oral iron In context ↗
  • iron IV infusions · HelpedCannot tolerate oral iron so got a couple iron IV infusions and felt great. In context ↗
  • Med mj · HelpedMed mj helps me stop so much negative thinking and takes the edge off the pain In context ↗
  • mindset shift from Dr. Howard Schubiner podcast · Helped a lotBy accident, I listened to a podcast about me/cfs co-hosted by Dr. Howard Schubiner that completely changed my perspective on this. For me, the mindset shift saved me. In context ↗
  • emotional and “vagal” work · Not saidI am now focused on emotional and “vagal” work. In context ↗

Approaches: Brain retraining

Their path

Very severeSevereModerateMildNear normalRecoveredonset3 mo6 mo9 mo12 mo

How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. 1 step has no time and sits in story order between the steps around it. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they wereAfter
2025fatigue began; iron found borderline lowFatigue in 2025 but no other big issues. Iron came back borderline low. In context ↗Mild
2025felt great after iron infusionsCannot tolerate oral iron so got a couple iron IV infusions and felt great. In context ↗Near normalIron infusion / ferritin repletion
Jan. 2026hit with profound fatigue, PEM, pain, brain fog, headachesJan. 2026 I get hit with profound fatigue, what had to be PEM, that poisoned feeling, pain everywhere, brain fog, headaches In context ↗Moderate
2026-02-25spiralled; muscle and joint pain, meh and exhausted daysI'm now developing muscle and joint pain and have meh days and exhausted days. In context ↗Moderate
2026-04-09no more crashes, only very mild vague symptoms after a mindset shiftNo more crashes but very mild vague symptoms In context ↗MildSarno / TMS / somatic tracking / JournalSpeak

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Post-exertional malaisewhat had to be PEM In context ↗
  • Pain & fibromyalgiaI'm now developing muscle and joint pain In context ↗
  • POTS & dysautonomiathe full conviction that this is FOR ME—- dysautonomia In context ↗

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