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ME/CFS Moderate → somewhat betterIll 10 years before improving or writingNeeds ongoing treatment

ME/CFS made much worse by boom/bust, somewhat better with strict pacing

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Moderate (mostly housebound)
Ill before improving or writing
10 years
Last post
Jan 2025
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSit came down to fibromyalgia, cfs/me, degenerative discs disease, arthritis in my neck plus the chronic pain In context ↗
  • At worst: ModerateEven after I stopped working I would push too hard and eventually crash, rest to recover ... I pushed myself to collapse and things got really bad over years of boom/bust In context ↗
  • Now: Somewhat betterPacing myself to operate within my energy threshold or "envelope" as my specialist would put it, has improved my daily function dramatically. In context ↗
  • Began after: stress or burnoutI likely worked and stressed for a decade before giving in to the fatigue and pain.
  • Says they never had: Gut problemsI don’t have stomach issues other than dense protein can trigger PEM.
Read from 42 of their posts and comments; links to the 28 this page draws on

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Summary

Bluebell 34399, a Canadian, was ill with ME/CFS for about a decade, alongside fibromyalgia and chronic neck pain. Years of pushing through a boom/bust cycle made them much worse. Medicines such as Lyrica, Adderall and marijuana helped them cope, but they credit strict pacing within their energy envelope for dramatically improving their daily function. They still have daily pain and fatigue, and PEM with activity, and do not work.

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What they tried

Their words about each treatment
  • Cymbalta · Much worsethrew Cymbalta at me. It didn’t go well In context ↗
  • intermittent fasting (16 hours off 8 on) · Helpedwas doing intermittent (16 hours off 8 on) for 6 or so months. I felt a lift of the mental fog and potentially general energy. In context ↗
  • low dose aderall · HelpedI have been taking low dose aderall (10mg) and it helps. In context ↗
  • salt · HelpedMore salt certainly helped more than coffee. In context ↗
  • double plasma replacement therapy · Helped a lotI did a double plasma replacement therapy years ago which dramatically helped. In context ↗
  • physiotherapy, jogging and daily walking · WorseI tried running the other day... like a “I’m doing this if it kills me”. I didn’t make it far and it cost me two days of recovery. In context ↗
  • group therapy · HelpedThe one I have tried and really benefit from is group therapy. In context ↗
  • mindfulness · HelpedI had practiced mindfulness for a decade before CFS/ME ... I think it has carried me a long way in terms of depression In context ↗
  • Lyrica · HelpedPersonally I have success with Lyrica (only side effect I notice is trouble sleeping which is rare but gabapentin did it too) for pain. In context ↗
  • marijuana · HelpedMarijuana helps as an end all solution for me with pain. In context ↗
  • low dose naltrexone · No changeI took for 4 months with no improvement. This was at 4.5mg In context ↗
  • gabapentin · Not saidonly side effect I notice is trouble sleeping which is rare but gabapentin did it too In context ↗
  • stretching and rolling · HelpedStretching is likely my #1 for general inflammation and to an extent helped reduce my headaches from sub cranial inflammation. In context ↗
  • stopping alcohol · Not saidI stopped drinking all alcohol all together a few years ago. In context ↗
  • golfing · HelpedPreviously it took three full days to recover from golfing with a cart. Now I just force myself to go In context ↗
  • sensory deprivation · Not saidI’m trying sensory deprivation which is fully out of pocket. In context ↗
  • diet (smaller portions of meat) · HelpedFor me diet makes a difference overall and in real time. In context ↗
  • Cambia · Helped a lotI think the Cambia is in 50mg packets and I use 2 at a time. It is still working great for my pain. In context ↗
  • Visible app · Not saidI use an app called Visible to do this each morning after sleep. In context ↗
  • pacing · Helped a lotPacing myself to operate within my energy threshold or "envelope" as my specialist would put it, has improved my daily function dramatically. In context ↗
  • rest and sleep · HelpedThe only thing that gets rid of PEM is time. Time asleep is the quickest for me. In context ↗

Approaches: Apheresis · Pacing

Their path

Very severeSevereModerateMildNear normalRecovered5 y6 y7 y8 y

How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. The first step with a time is 4.3 years after onset: the story doesn’t say how ill they were before that. The dashed part: the story doesn’t say when. 1 step says too little to place on the scale and is only in the table. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they wereAfter
around 2015CFS onset after a decade of stressful 50+ hour weeksI have had cfs for just about 7 years In context ↗Not stated
—pushed through symptoms in a boom/bust cycle and collapsedI pushed myself to collapse and things got really bad over years of boom/bust In context ↗Moderate
2019-10-28six months of 16:8 fasting lifted brain fog and energyI felt a lift of the mental fog and potentially general energy. In context ↗ModerateIntermittent fasting
2020-09-03crashed after trying to runI didn’t make it far and it cost me two days of recovery. In context ↗Mild
2021-09-30best place in a decade, golfing again with a warm-up routineI’m in the best place I have been in the past decade. Primarily medicine but other things have happened. In context ↗Mild
2023-05-24breakthrough months after dropping the boom/bust cyclethis past 6 months have been break through months for me and the main factor was 100% dumping the boom bust cycle In context ↗MildPacing and the energy envelope
2024-01-28staying inside his energy envelope keeps daily function much betterhas improved my daily function dramatically In context ↗MildPacing and the energy envelope

Adverse events

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Post-exertional malaiseThere is zero point in running any meters as it always causes pem. In context ↗
  • Brain fogI felt a lift of the mental fog and potentially general energy. In context ↗
  • Sleep problemsI have spent far too much changing beds, pillows, adjustable etc. In context ↗
  • Pain & fibromyalgiaI have Fibro and CFS. In context ↗
  • Headaches & migrainehelped reduce my headaches from sub cranial inflammation In context ↗
  • Anxiety & low moodI’m just in bed sad af. In context ↗
  • Temperature regulationhave to really bundle up or I get these odd reactions at a skin level like the skin is on fire In context ↗

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