Long COVID fatigue and brain fog much better after serrapeptase and nattokinase
- Condition
- Long COVID
- At worst
- Not stated
- Ill before improving or writing
- Not stated
- Last post
- Oct 2023
In their words
- Condition: Long COVID
After I started getting the symptoms of PASC
In context ↗ - Now: Much better
the suppliments that helped me recover the most (by far) were fibrolytics (serra/natto)
In context ↗ - Began after: COVID
After I started getting the symptoms of PASC
In context ↗
Read from 12 of their posts and comments; links to the 11 this page draws on
Summary
Long COVID left them with fatigue, brain fog, rest tachycardia and PEM, though they never said how far it limited activity. ADHD stimulants helped a little but worsened tachycardia; serrapeptase and nattokinase were the supplements they credited most for their recovery, easing fatigue, sore muscles and brain fog. A 19-20 hour fasting trial caused muscle loss, back pain and nausea and was stopped.
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What they tried
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- corticosteroids · Worse
I got thrush from taking corticosteroids years ago, I stopped taking those
In context ↗ - oral antifungal medicine · Not said
took oral antifungal medicine, then candibactin AR for a while, then took probiotics after to restore things
In context ↗ - probiotics · Not said
then took probiotics after to restore things
In context ↗ - OTC supplements for suspected SIBO · Helped
I was treating myself for suspected SIBO using OTC supplements for it and probiotics. ... After a month I seemed to feel much better
In context ↗ - strattera · Helped
it didnt work that well for me though ... I once took stratera for a while and it kinda helped
- Adderall XR · Worse
I was taking XR when I got sick, my brain fog forced me to increase the dose, but it didn't help as much as I had hoped it would, and made my tachycardia a bit worse
In context ↗ - ritalin / concerta · Helped
I switched to (a lowish dose of) ritalin (i switch every few years anyway for tolerance), which has helped a little bit. It doesn't help with brain fog as much tho.
In context ↗ - nattokinase (natto) · Helped a lot
the suppliments that helped me recover the most (by far) were fibrolytics (serra/natto)
In context ↗ - serrapeptase (serra) · Helped a lot
It kinda helped my mom (really helped me, and I still take it often as an anti-inflammatory)
In context ↗ - Famotidine (Pepcid AC) · Helped
Famotidine (pepcid ac), and Gas-x (simethicone) helped me a fair bit, with this issue.
In context ↗ - smaller meals · Helped
Smaller meals, massaging my stomach, Famotidine (pepcid ac), and Gas-x (simethicone) helped me a fair bit, with this issue.
In context ↗ - 19-20h fasts · Worse
I've tried 19-20h fasts, and it caused so much muscle pain/loss, I had to stop.
In context ↗ - quercetin · Not said
I'm trying to induce autophagy with quercetin and reversatrol instead now, though don't know if it's working.
In context ↗ - reversatrol · Not said
I used to take reversatrol with fasting (helps autophagy) and NAD+ (energy/metabolism) once the heart palps stopped.
In context ↗ - Ashwagandha · Helped
I found that Ashwagandha and CBD oil helped a bit.
In context ↗
Approaches: Anticoagulants
Their path
They say too little about how ill they were at each step to draw it on the severity scale, so the steps are listed as they describe them. Dates are when they posted.
| When | What happened | Where they were |
|---|---|---|
| — | Long COVID/PASC symptoms beganAfter I started getting the symptoms of PASCIn context ↗ | Not stated |
| 2022-01-19 | Serrapeptase/nattokinase and a low ritalin dose eased symptomsI've also found serra & natto have helped with my symptoms, like fatigue, tachycardia, brain fog.In context ↗ | Not stated |
| 2022-07-27 | Crashed during 19-20 hour fasting: muscle loss, back pain, nauseaAfter 4 weeks of this, I was shaking, with severe back pain, no energy, sciatica, and was always slightly nauseous.In context ↗ | Not stated |
| 2023-06-06 | Fatigue and sore/weak muscles improved on serrapeptasemy fatigue and sore/weak muscles really really improvedIn context ↗ | Not stated |
| 2023-09-28 | Credited fibrinolytics for most of their recoverythe suppliments that helped me recover the most (by far) were fibrolytics (serra/natto)In context ↗ | Mild |
Adverse events
- Amphetamine salts (Adderall), Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta)“After I started getting the symptoms of PASC, I found adderall affected my tachycardia when at rest” In context ↗ Heart rhythm problems
- Amphetamine salts (Adderall)“my brain fog forced me to increase the dose, but it didn't help as much as I had hoped it would, and made my tachycardia a bit worse” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Intermittent fasting“I've tried 19-20h fasts, and it caused so much muscle pain/loss, I had to stop. ... After 4 weeks of this, I was shaking, with severe back pain, no energy, sciatica, and was always slightly nauseous.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Corticosteroid pulses“I got thrush from taking corticosteroids years ago, I stopped taking those ... I get it whenever I take corticosteroids (eg asthma medications, prednisone, etc).” In context ↗ Other
- Nattokinase“What did it cause, stomach/gastro issues (diarrhea) or tiredness? It did that the first few times I tried it” In context ↗ Gut side effects
- Nattokinase“had a terrible stress/anger issues. Turns out nattokinase messes with the breakdown of adderall, so it causes some kind of overdose.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Post-exertional malaise
Serra+Natto helped me with my brain fog, moreso during PEM episodes.
In context ↗ - Brain fog
It doesn't help with brain fog as much tho.
In context ↗ - Heart symptoms & palpitations
adderall affected my tachycardia when at rest
In context ↗ - Muscle weakness
my fatigue and sore/weak muscles really really improved
In context ↗ - Pain & fibromyalgia
it caused so much muscle pain/loss
In context ↗ - Neuropathy & tingling
horrible back pain, sciatica etc
In context ↗ - Anxiety & low mood
I had a similar issue with a family member.
In context ↗
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