ME/CFS with PEM, bedbound, now somewhat better after stopping inhaler
- Condition
- ME/CFS
- At worst
- Not stated
- Ill before improving or writing
- 3 years
- Last post
- Oct 2026
In their words
- Condition: ME/CFS
I have CFS and pots.
In context ↗ - Now: Somewhat better
I started ivabradine which took me from severe to more moderate.
In context ↗ - Began after: COVID
First of all, I'm coming from the covid train, in case it feels relevant.
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Summary
After long COVID they developed ME/CFS symptoms with PEM, suspected POTS/dysautonomia and asthma, deteriorating over a year from work to sick leave. An asthma glucocorticoid inhaler left them bedbound until they stopped it, after which they improved within days to couchbound/housebound. They used a mobility chair indoors and a push wheelchair outside with someone, but were not wheelchair full time.
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What they tried
What they credit
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- flu shot · Worse
I got mildly sick from my flu shot and barely any effect from the Corona vaccination.
In context ↗ - Corona vaccination/booster · No change
I got mine a month ago and was afraid it would negatively influence me, but I had zero effect (except for maybe 4 days of being a bit off)
In context ↗ - coffee/caffeine · Helped
Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor and helps me with POTS management in the morning, I limit myself to one cup per day
In context ↗ - pacing · Helped
really only resting and pacing has helped
In context ↗ - radical rest · Helped
Radical resting, or listening to boring YouTube (with eyes closed) was the only thing I felt like was doing anything.
In context ↗ - sleeping with legs elevated · Helped
I put a pillow under my matrass and my legs hurt less and I feel less pressure on my head.
In context ↗ - zolpidem · Not said
I am taking since April (max maybe max once a week bc addictive) zolpidemtart 10 mg.
In context ↗ - glucocorticoid inhaler (Alvesco, ciclesonide) · Much worse
my doctor prescribed me a glucocorticoid (alvesco, ciclesonide) and it had the **worst reaction** in me.
In context ↗ - Garmin Vivoactive 5 · Helped
I can appreciate the body battery score that the Garmin gives me, I feel it visualizes nicely what takes a lot of energy
In context ↗ - melatonin · Helped
I've started with 3mg of melatonin 2h before bedtime and it seems to work very well.
In context ↗ - compression stockings · Helped
I got medically prescribed (and measured to fit my legs) compression stockings (till the groin) and find that they help with pain relief.
In context ↗ - salt water · Helped
I started mixing 5gr of salt to 1.5 litre of water, just to see what happened. I already notice benefits from it (less headaches).
In context ↗ - 40 min up / 20 min down schedule · Worse
I did a similar schedule (40 min "up"/ 20 min down), bc my OT recommended me to do it. ... It was too much for me, and I'm worse then when I started.
In context ↗ - ivabradine · Helped a lot
after I asked, she agreed to trial ivabradine. I'm happy to say that it doesn't cut my resting heart rate that much further down, but definitely takes the peak out of the maximum.
In context ↗ - ibuprofen · No change
Nothing relieved the pain, not even higher doses of ibuprofen.
In context ↗ - Xanax · Helped
I took Xanax in the summer for extreme stress. It worked well for me, and made me sleep better.
In context ↗ - triptans · Helped
I've used a triptan for 12 days consecutively last month bc of migraines during PEM ... I feel noticeably better while on them
In context ↗ - iron tablets · Worse
I've tried Ferro fumarate 200 mg first, it seemed like they gave me migraines. Then I switched to ferrosulphate (delayed dose), which still makes me crash.
In context ↗ - multivitamin · Worse
I took the same multi vitamin until I started puking them out religiously 4 weeks after pneumonia
In context ↗ - vitamin D · Not said
Only vit D, it's winter where I live now and I don't go outside generally.
In context ↗ - propranolol · Helped a lot
started with new meds last week and it seems to go surprisingly well (propranolol). My stress levels are lower than ever.
In context ↗ - iron infusion · Helped
I got an iron infusion, it made me feel more human again.
In context ↗ - ketotifen · Helped
I started with .5 mg and didn't really notice anything. After 2 days I took 1 mg by accident and did that now for a few weeks. My body Battery (garmin) looks way better
In context ↗ - anti histamine · Helped
got a calmer heart rate and overall less air hunger + less nausea/bloatyneds etc. from ketitofen + anti histamine.
In context ↗ - CBT / acceptance and commitment therapy · Helped
I've been through acceptance and commitment therapy and feel like it was helpful.
In context ↗ - Morphine · Not said
I get super nauseated from morphine
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Approaches: POTS medication · Antihistamines & MCAS · Beta-blockers · Pacing · Radical rest · Supplements
Their path
How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.
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| When | What happened | Where they were | After |
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| late 2023 | double pneumonia (suspected COVID), then long COVIDI went back to the gym like 4 weeks after a double pneumonia bc that's just how I was raised (badly).In context ↗ | Mild | |
| November 2024 | still deteriorating after a year of illness; three-week flareAfter a year of being sick, I'm still deteriorating every week.In context ↗ | Severe | |
| January 2025 | close to bed bound after months of declineI'm close to bed bound, and she now started talking about an electric wheelchair.In context ↗ | Severe | |
| February 2025 | glucocorticoid asthma inhaler caused rolling PEM; bed bound, starting pressure soreI felt the absolute worst, rolling PEM, bed bound, days away of calling the insurance to arrange a nurse for sponge bathsIn context ↗ | Very severe | |
| February 2025 | stopped the inhaler; back on the couch within two daysAfter 5 weeks I stopped, and within 2 days I was able to lay on the couch in the living room againIn context ↗ | Severe | |
| April 2025 | ivabradine; sitting became more comfortableI still can't stand really, but sitting has become a lot more comfortable.In context ↗ | Severe | Ivabradine |
| December 2025 | iron tablets brought bad crashesI'm on iron tablets since six weeks now, and seen to be having really bad crashes.In context ↗ | Severe | |
| January 2026 | propranolol added; stress levels lower than everI started with new meds last week and it seems to go surprisingly well (propranolol). My stress levels are lower than ever.In context ↗ | Severe | Propranolol (Inderal) |
| March 2026 | ivabradine took her from severe to more moderateI started ivabradine which took me from severe to more moderate.In context ↗ | Moderate | Ivabradine |
| October 2026 | still wheelchair-dependent full time, alone much of the day; migraines flaring againI am moderate bordering on severe, live alone with some support but not enough, and use my wheelchair full time.In context ↗ | Severe |
Adverse events
- Flu vaccine“I got mildly sick from my flu shot” In context ↗ Side effects
- COVID vaccination as treatment“I had zero effect (except for maybe 4 days of being a bit off)” In context ↗ Side effects
- COVID vaccination as treatment“I was a bit pemish for 4 days after the shot, but nothing I wouldn't do again” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- “I bought a wedge pillow set, but my heart rate is responding bad to it.” In context ↗ Heart rhythm problems
- “Mine got way worse in the beginning of using this set and I had no idea where it was coming from.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- “I am pretty sure it contributed to a pressure ulcer I still have (8 months in)” In context ↗ Other
- Zolpidem (Ambien)“heart rate is higher than normal and I only get like 14 bb points” In context ↗ Side effects
- Zolpidem (Ambien)“I have (according to my body battery on Garmin) the worst(!) sleep with doctors prescribed sleep meds.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Zolpidem (Ambien)“I will sleep but I absolutely don't feel well the next day.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Symptom-tracking apps and wearables (Visible)“first day immediately gave me blisters and my skin was raw and open” In context ↗ Other
- “a full anesthesia was already very heavy on my body ... It would feel like I had gone through a very heavy flu, muscle weakness and out of breath” In context ↗ Side effects
- Pacing and the energy envelope“It was too much for me, and I'm worse then when I started.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Corticosteroid pulses“I felt the absolute worst, rolling PEM, bed bound, days away of calling the insurance to arrange a nurse for sponge baths” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Morphine“I get super nauseated from morphine” In context ↗ Gut side effects
- “The histamine test already knocked me out for weeks.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Iron infusion / ferritin repletion“I'm on iron tablets since six weeks now, and seen to be having really bad crashes.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Iron infusion / ferritin repletion“I've tried Ferro fumarate 200 mg first, it seemed like they gave me migraines.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Iron infusion / ferritin repletion“I take it also every 3th day and get constipation as well as diarrhea from it” In context ↗ Gut side effects
- Iron infusion / ferritin repletion“I got horrible rashes and what not from them” In context ↗ Allergic reaction / anaphylaxis
- Melatonin“Too much makes me wake up at night.” In context ↗ Insomnia from treatment
- Multivitamins (Centrum)“I took the same multi vitamin until I started puking them out religiously” In context ↗ Gut side effects
- Ivabradine“my vision goes a bit wacky from being in a dark space to going in a light space” In context ↗ Side effects
- Triptans (unspecified)“A known side effect is swelling in the throat and I also had that” In context ↗ Side effects
- Triptans (unspecified)“I have tried ar least 5 different triptans before I found one that doesn't give me too many side effects.” In context ↗ Side effects
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Post-exertional malaise
walking VERY minimal distances triggers my PEM
In context ↗ - Brain fog
Luckily brain fog will keep it interesting
In context ↗ - POTS & dysautonomia
I have CFS and pots.
In context ↗ - Mast cell (MCAS) & allergies
I actually think it's MCAS related. I'm not officially diagnosed with it, but I'm seeing more and more signs.
In context ↗ - Sleep problems
Today is the first day I didn't sleep terrible
In context ↗ - Pain & fibromyalgia
I had excruciating pain in my legs and nothing helped
In context ↗ - Headaches & migraine
They went to the background a bit (4 attacks a month) after managing my pots better. But now I don't know what happened.
In context ↗ - Gut problems
Turning around in bed already would give me nausea and headaches.
In context ↗ - Light & noise sensitivity
the small light can already give me a headache and a raised heartbeat
In context ↗ - Breathlessness
It feels difficult to relax when I'm basically always panting.
In context ↗ - Heart symptoms & palpitations
I have massive heart palpitations (basically throughout the day)
In context ↗ - Muscle weakness
I became completely bedbound and have lost muscle mass.
In context ↗ - Anxiety & low mood
I guess the short version is lots of emotions: scared for the future
In context ↗ - Flu-like symptoms
Sore throat is however one of my PEM symptoms
In context ↗ - Temperature regulation
I'm indeed cold together with my chills, and then I'll break out in sweat and heat.
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