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ME/CFS Very severe → somewhat betterIll 4 years before improving or writing

Bed bound with very severe ME/CFS, now more functional after Stem Cell Educator therapy

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Very severe (bedbound, unable to do basic care)
Ill before improving or writing
4 years
Last post
Jan 2026
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSDiagnosed with autoimmune autonomic neuropathy, post viral dysautonomia and MECFS. In context ↗
  • At worst: Very severeVery severe for two years (bed bound, light and sound deprivation, constant PEM cycles, unable to speak). In context ↗
  • Now: Somewhat betterOver the past four months I’ve improved significantly from very severe ME (bed bound, unable to speak, light sound deprivation) to closer to severe/moderate (housebound but so much more functional). In context ↗
  • Began after: another virusSick since 2021 following upper respiratory infection and course of Augmentin. In context ↗
Read from 8 of their posts and comments; links to the 7 this page draws on

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Summary

Falling ill in 2021 after an upper respiratory infection, Canyon 14478 had very severe ME/CFS for two years: bed bound, unable to speak, needing light and sound deprivation. From 2025 they improved over several months, crediting Stem Cell Educator therapy (over $30,000) and treating hydrogen sulfide SIBO with an elemental diet and molybdenum. They now call themselves closer to severe/moderate, housebound but far more functional; PEM is less frequent but not resolved.

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What they tried

Also tried

vitamin B2 (regular riboflavin)· HelpedB3(niqcinomide)· HelpedB9 (Folinic acid)· Helpedmotegrity· HelpedLDN· No changeextended course of antibiotics for a skin infection· Worse
Their words about each treatment
  • LDN · No changeI have tried LDN! I’ve tried so many things after years of this and it’s really just been the stuff detailed in the post that’s made a difference. In context ↗
  • extended course of antibiotics for a skin infection · WorseThe antibiotics I was on for the skin infection made the sibo symptoms a lot worse. In context ↗
  • Stem Cell Educator therapy (SCET) · HelpedSCET did seem to help some and I think it allowed me to tolerate what came next. In context ↗
  • elemental diet · HelpedI did it for three weeks straight and then transitioned back to food over like two weeks In context ↗
  • low sulfur diet · HelpedThat symptom only improved for me after going on a low sulfur diet. In context ↗
  • molybdenum · HelpedMolybdenum: 150mcg 5-8 times a day (before meals and then extra as needed) In context ↗
  • vitamin B2 (regular riboflavin) · HelpedB2 (regular riboflavin): 6.5mg five times a day (usually before every meal) In context ↗
  • bismuth · Helpedusing bismuth and hydroxy b12 to bind H2S In context ↗
  • B12 (methyl and hydroxyl) · HelpedB12 (methyl and hydroxyl): 1mg three times a day In context ↗
  • Epsom salt baths · HelpedEpsom salt baths (non dietary magnesium sulfate) consistently help In context ↗
  • B1 (thiamine hcl) · HelpedB1 (thiamine hcl): 6mg three times a day In context ↗
  • B3(niqcinomide) · HelpedB3(niqcinomide): 80mg three times a day In context ↗
  • B5 (pantothenic acid) · HelpedB5 (pantothenic acid): 25mg three times a day In context ↗
  • B9 (Folinic acid) · HelpedB9 (Folinic acid): 2.5mg three times a day In context ↗
  • xifaxin · HelpedI actually just did a course of xifaxin and bismuth and that helped a little, but elemental was more effective. In context ↗
  • motegrity · HelpedI was having constipation but that has improved with motegrity. In context ↗

Approaches: Alternative therapies · Antibiotics · Diet · Biologics & antibodies · Other drugs and medicines · Supplements

Their path

Very severeSevereModerateMildNear normalRecovered

How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, in the order they describe; they don’t give enough times to place each step. Hover or tap a point. 1 step says too little to place on the scale and is only in the table. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they wereAfter
2021illness began after an upper respiratory infection and a course of AugmentinSick since 2021 following upper respiratory infection and course of Augmentin. In context ↗Not stated
—bed bound, unable to speak, light and sound deprivationVery severe for two years (bed bound, light and sound deprivation, constant PEM cycles, unable to speak). In context ↗Very severe
one month post SCETsmall gains in PEM, light/sound sensitivity and energy, still bed boundI would’ve still been considered very severe and was still bed bound. In context ↗Very severeStem cell therapy
September 2025improved to closer to severe/moderate, housebound but more functionalcloser to severe/moderate (housebound but so much more functional) In context ↗Moderate
January 2026continuing improvement, including sleep, from treating the gutTurning my attention to my gut has really turned things around for me. In context ↗Moderate

Adverse events

Symptoms mentioned

Their words about their symptoms
  • Post-exertional malaiseThe PEM is also less frequent and less severe but not entirely resolved. In context ↗
  • Brain fogmy day to day symptoms, especially the neurological ones like headache, fatigue, brain fog, sleep disruption, and neuropathy have all improved! In context ↗
  • Headaches & migraineMain symptoms: PEM, headaches, extreme fatigue, brain fog, muscle pain, POTS, sleep disturbances, neuropathy. In context ↗
  • POTS & dysautonomiaEven my dysautonomia has improved slightly. In context ↗
  • Sleep problemsI had severe sleep issues that have improved as I’ve treated my gut. In context ↗
  • Neuropathy & tinglingneuropathy have all improved! In context ↗
  • Light & noise sensitivityAt one month post SCET, I had seen some small improvements in PEM, light/sound sensitivity and energy. In context ↗
  • Gut problemsright lower quadrant abdominal pain (ileocecal valve area) In context ↗

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