Long COVID with POTS, much better physically but worse mentally with propranolol
- Condition
- Long COVID
- At worst
- Moderate (mostly housebound)
- Ill before improving or writing
- 16 months
- Last post
- Feb 2025
In their words
- Condition: Long COVID
my long covid doesn’t feel very auto-immune but I’m not sure
In context ↗ - At worst: Moderate
It was like that for about three months, I could walk around my house but nothing more.
In context ↗ - Now: Much better
I’m not recovered but I would be okay with this level of health for the rest of my life… ... I feel like Im ~70% myself at the moment.
In context ↗ - Began after: COVID
covid infection was in Nov 2023
- Says they never had: Mast cell (MCAS) & allergies
I don’t have MCAS or any MCAS symptoms to my knowledge.
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Summary
Hill 59219 developed long COVID after a November 2023 infection, with POTS, fatigue, early PEM, tinnitus and severe anxiety and depersonalisation. Propranolol controlled the POTS, Lexapro helped anxiety somewhat, and nattokinase eased numbness and covid toes. Physical symptoms largely resolved, but anxiety and POTS remained, and after about 9 months they were mostly physically better but mentally worse.
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What they tried
What they credit
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- Vitamin C · Worse
High-ish dose of Vitamin C: makes me feel TERRIBLE, super tired and like I’m coming down with something.
In context ↗ - zinc · Not said
I’ve taken vitamin C and zinc every day for about 3 years.
In context ↗ - fish oil · Worse
Fish oil: Gives me insomnia, nausea and stomach cramps
In context ↗ - NAC · Worse
NAC: Gave me terrible anxiety/derealization and had to stop taking it
In context ↗ - Lexapro (escitalopram) · Helped
It has helped me with anxiety and depression. It hasn’t done much for brain fog, fatigue or weak limbs though.
In context ↗ - CBT therapy · No change
I have tried CBT too and it just doesn’t do it for me.
In context ↗ - propranolol · Helped
40mg of propranolol 1 - 2 times a day completely eliminated all POTS symptoms for me.
In context ↗ - Ativan / benzos · Helped
Benzos: completely get rid of all my symptoms, (including POTS somewhat)
In context ↗ - doxycycline · Helped
I started a long term course of doxycycline about a month ago and have felt way better in general.
In context ↗ - nattokinase · Helped
Nattokinase is the first supplement to help me.
In context ↗ - aspirin · Helped
Nattokinase and aspirin: good for my circulation issues.
In context ↗ - Pfizer booster (third shot) · Helped
it did get rid off my tinnitus, no idea why
In context ↗ - Zyrtec / Claritin / Benadryl · No change
I’ve tried a low histamine diet + daily zyrtec, then tried daily claritin, then daily benadryl and didn’t seem to make any difference at all except I was tired all the time.
In context ↗ - famotidine · No change
I tried famotidine, zyrtec and claritin + low histamine diet but didn’t seem to make any difference really.
In context ↗ - low histamine diet · No change
I did a low histamine diet for about 3 months maybe a little longer and then just gave up because I didn’t feel any difference.
In context ↗ - LDN · No change
I tried a course of LDN and it did nothing.
In context ↗ - LDA · No change
LDN/LDA have not helped at all.
In context ↗ - paxlovid · No change
Things like paxlovid, antihistamines, antibiotics and LDN/LDA have not helped at all.
In context ↗ - fluid intake (LMNT electrolytes), salt intake, compression · No change
fluid intake (LMNT electrolytes), salt intake ... compression etc.. make 0 difference at all.
In context ↗ - exercise / leg muscle training; gradual running · No change
Essentially it hasn't helped but it hasn't made me worse.
In context ↗ - resting / taking life easily · Not said
It really just went away after resting for a couple of months and taking life very easily.
In context ↗ - TENS machine on vagus nerve · Worse
It made my ears super hot for a minute and it kind of made me feel like I was about to vomit. Then my POTS was GONE for about 3 hours.
In context ↗ - metoprolol succinate · Helped a lot
it’s honestly been the most amazing thing in the past year and a bit.
In context ↗ - melatonin · Worse
I’ve tried melatonin but it honestly just made it worse.
In context ↗ - meclizine · No change
Meclizine doesn’t help
In context ↗ - ginger and mints · No change
Ive tried things like meclizine and ginger and mints but in the end I always feel like I need to drive in order to not throw up.
In context ↗ - prednisone · No change
I’ve tried ibuprofen and even taken prednisone and didn’t really notice a difference.
In context ↗ - ibuprofen · Helped
I had this REALLY bad in my acute phase and ibuprofen helped me I think.
In context ↗ - sertraline (Zoloft) · Much worse
It just made me SUPER anxious and I genuinely couldn’t function, I literally felt suicidal because I was stuck in panic mode on it.
In context ↗ - Accutane (isotretinoin) · Much worse
Unfortunately it made me suicidal after 4 days.
In context ↗ - vitamin D · Not said
I take nattokinase and vitamin D when I remember to haha.
In context ↗ - probiotic · Not said
I do take a probiotic with it
In context ↗ - naturopath · No change
I went to one. Didn’t help my symptoms but he was a lovely, understanding guy.
In context ↗ - gluten-free diet · Helped
cut gluten out of my diet, which has actually helped.
In context ↗ - total darkness / sensory deprivation · Not said
I even tried sitting in total darkness for 24 hours, no stimulation at all to see if it would make ANY difference…
In context ↗ - time · Helped a lot
Time is a big part of it for sure.
In context ↗ - 5HTP · No change
NAC, 5HTP, melatonin, CBT therapy, antihistamines (zyrtec, claritin)
In context ↗ - Extended water fasting (3+ days) · Not said
I think about 3.5 days didn’t really do much except I felt very fatigued by the end of it.
In context ↗
Approaches: Antibiotics · Beta-blockers · Diet
Their path
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| When | What happened | Where they were | After |
|---|---|---|---|
| November 2023 | COVID infection, then long COVIDI got out of hospital and woke up feeling like I was dying for the next monthIn context ↗ | Not stated | |
| December 2023 - February 2024 | POTS began; could barely walk 40 metres, housebound for monthsI was out for lunch and had to walk about 40 metres on flat ground. I felt like I was about to have a heart attack.In context ↗ | Moderate | |
| March 2024 | propranolol controlled POTS; PEM and crushing fatigue fadedThe propranolol was great for my POTS.In context ↗ | Moderate | |
| May 2024 | Pfizer booster; tinnitus gone and head clearerIt got rid of my tinnitus which I am happy to announce is still gone to this day!In context ↗ | Mild | COVID vaccination as treatment |
| July 2024 | numb fingers/toes and covid toes improvedI took nattokinase yesterday and it was GONE, blood flowing perfectly to my fingers and toes!In context ↗ | Mild | Nattokinase |
| August 2024 | physical symptoms resolved but leg tremors, dreamlike vision and severe anxiety worsenedHowever my brain issues are just getting worse and I don’t know why.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| September 2024 | back to work, school and socialising; only anxiety leftBack to work and school and hanging out with friends and family as normal.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| January 2025 | metoprolol relieved POTS, anxiety and PEM, but caused nightmaresIt’s made me forget I even have long covid. Minimal fatigue, no POTS, far less anxietyIn context ↗ | Mild | |
| February 2025 | about 70% of normal self, still on metoprolol and LexaproI feel like Im ~70% myself at the moment.In context ↗ | Mild |
Adverse events
- COVID vaccination as treatment“I haven’t had bad side effects at all other than the worst sore arm that I can barely move and some flu aches and nausea last night.” In context ↗ Side effects
- COVID vaccination as treatment“Im feeling flu-ey again this afternoon. Tired eyes, sore lymph nodes, feeling warm but don’t think a fever and some aches.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Escitalopram (Lexapro)“I’m soo sensitive with this kind of stuff and have all kinds of side effects so waiting a bit to increase.” In context ↗ Side effects
- NAC (N-acetylcysteine)“I did get it while taking NAC, no idea why.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- NAC (N-acetylcysteine)“When I took NAC this feeling briefly came back and I’d love to know why.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- Escitalopram (Lexapro)“I had the worst anxiety/panic attacks the first two weeks of starting and don’t really want to go thru that again.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- Extended water fasting (3+ days)“I think about 3.5 days didn’t really do much except I felt very fatigued by the end of it.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Vitamin C“High-ish dose of Vitamin C: makes me feel TERRIBLE, super tired and like I’m coming down with something. Also gives me diarrhoea sometimes” In context ↗ Side effects
- Omega-3 and fish oil“Fish oil: Gives me insomnia, nausea and stomach cramps” In context ↗ Insomnia from treatment
- Cetirizine (Zyrtec), Loratadine (Claritin), Diphenhydramine (Benadryl)“didn’t seem to make any difference at all except I was tired all the time.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Propranolol (Inderal)“haven’t got any side effects to report other than cold extremities and minor appetite loss.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Propranolol (Inderal)“I have fatigue for about an hour after taking propranolol but it goes away once I move around.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Melatonin“I have had some weird reactions to melatonin” In context ↗ Side effects
- Vagus nerve stimulation“It made my ears super hot for a minute and it kind of made me feel like I was about to vomit. ... I also had this intense feeling of impending doom for the rest of the night which sucked.” In context ↗ Other
- Propranolol (Inderal)“I started getting nasty side effects about 2 months in (June/May). ... My HR was getting as low as 48 while resting. It was causing worsened fatigue, completely numb limbs/extremities and I was freezing cold no matter what.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Propranolol (Inderal)“My body reacted very badly at first and I was having terrible rebound tachycardia, especially in the morning right before I took the pills.” In context ↗ Withdrawal problems
- Vagus nerve stimulation“What it did do was give me an overwhelming sense of impending doom and anxiety.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- Sertraline (Zoloft)“It just made me SUPER anxious and I genuinely couldn’t function, I literally felt suicidal because I was stuck in panic mode on it. It also gave me the worst nightmares of my life.” In context ↗ Suicidal thoughts or attempt
- Cetirizine (Zyrtec)“I think taking zyrtec every day might’ve been making my brain fog worse because I had tiredness from it as a side effect.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- Propranolol (Inderal)“propranolol seems to worsen my mental health issues ESPECIALLY depression and DPDR.” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- Propranolol (Inderal)“Whenever I skip a dose I get worse tachycardia than before i started taking it.” In context ↗ Withdrawal problems
- Propranolol (Inderal)“I do get side effects like cold feet.” In context ↗ Side effects
- COVID vaccination as treatment“I had some fatigue for like a day but it got rid of my tinnitus.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Metoprolol (Lopressor, Toprol)“The only problem is that I have terrifying nightmares every single night.” In context ↗ Insomnia from treatment
- Melatonin“I’ve tried melatonin but it honestly just made it worse.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Propranolol (Inderal)“it made me cold all the time and caused Raynaud syndrome.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Metoprolol (Lopressor, Toprol)“I had really bad nightmares for about a week when starting but theyre gone now.” In context ↗ Insomnia from treatment
- Doxycycline (Vibramycin)“I already have a messed up gut from taking doxycycline twice a day for 2 years.” In context ↗ Gut side effects
- Isotretinoin (Accutane)“Unfortunately it made me suicidal after 4 days.” In context ↗ Suicidal thoughts or attempt
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Post-exertional malaise
I had PEM in the beginning it lasted a few months.
In context ↗ - Brain fog
Mild brain fog/not able to concentrate
In context ↗ - POTS & dysautonomia
I still have POTS but it doesnt bother me unless I dont take my 12.5mg of metoprolol daily
In context ↗ - Sleep problems
I have about 3 days worth of 3 hour sleeps followed by a week of 15 hour sleeps.
In context ↗ - Anxiety & low mood
I also still have trouble with anxiety. It’s mostly social now
In context ↗ - Tinnitus
the Pfizer booster got rid of my tinnitus
In context ↗ - Heart symptoms & palpitations
Without my medication (propranolol) my HR jumps from about 70 to 140 standing
In context ↗ - Neuropathy & tingling
Ever since covid I’ve had numb fingertips and toes practically all the damn time
In context ↗ - Muscle weakness
I often end up with weak legs for an hour after a workout.
In context ↗ - Gut problems
I had stomach pain/nausea/globus sensation.
In context ↗ - Vision problems
My vision has also deteriorated horribly.
In context ↗ - Light & noise sensitivity
I get easily overwhelmed by public spaces
In context ↗
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