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ME/CFS Severe → much betterIll 12 years before improving or writingNeeds ongoing treatment

Bedridden with ME/CFS at worst, now much better with spironolactone and mould treatment

Condition
ME/CFS
At worst
Severe (mostly bedbound)
Ill before improving or writing
12 years
Last post
Jan 2023
In their words
  • Condition: ME/CFSI have CFS (likely EBV-induced) In context ↗
  • At worst: Severeafter three years of being incredibly sick and often fully bedridden In context ↗
  • Now: Much betterI am 75% recovered In context ↗
  • Began after: glandular fever or EBVI have CFS (likely EBV-induced) In context ↗
Read from 21 of their posts and comments; links to the 15 this page draws on

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Summary

He had CFS for about 12 years, likely EBV-triggered, and was mostly bedridden for months after a 2020 relapse that followed caffeine and supplement experiments. Spironolactone lowered his EBV markers, and a CIRS/mould treatment programme with slow detox and gut work brought him back to exercising, working and socialising. He rated himself about 75% recovered and still in treatment.

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What they tried

Their words about each treatment
  • klonopin · Not saidI’m 32M and have been taking klonopin for about 5 years, 1mg per day up until 6 months ago where I increased to 1.5-2mg per day In context ↗
  • neural retraining therapy · HelpedI tried neural retraining therapy initially ... it only helped me slightly In context ↗
  • different diets · Not saidtrying different diets, etc In context ↗
  • L-Carnitine · Worserecently I tried a high dose of L-Carnitine (about 5 grams) and had an extremely bad reaction In context ↗
  • Arginine, Citrulline, and Ornithine · Not saidSupplementing Arginine, Citrulline, and Ornithine to test correcting a possible ammonia clearing issue. In context ↗
  • spironolactone · Helped a lot4 months of spiro have changed my positive EBV PCR tests to negative tests In context ↗
  • CIRS treatment · Helped a lotI went from mostly bedridden for months to now being highly functional after diagnosing CIRS and getting on a treatment program In context ↗
  • binder · HelpedWhen I went on a binder the dose was way too high and it made everything worse. However once I got that dialed in at a level I could handle, I slowly felt like I was less "inflammed" In context ↗
  • gentle detox program · Helpedthe fatigue and brain issues didn’t improve until I started a gentle detox program In context ↗
  • high-dose phospholipids · Helpedstarted a few specific supplements like high-dose phospholipids In context ↗
  • Synapsin nasal spray · HelpedSynapsin nasal spray for the neuro inflammation allowed me to get off of klonopin completely In context ↗
  • prednisone · Not saidI also had to take prednisone during covid which probably didn’t help the EBV In context ↗
  • valacyclovir · WorseI tried valacyclovir but just couldn’t tolerate the mental side effects I got from it In context ↗
  • Flu vaccine · WorseI have avoided getting the flu vaccine since coming down with CFS because I found it triggered my symptoms quite a bit. In context ↗

Approaches: Hormones & thyroid · Mould avoidance · Supplements

Their path

Very severeSevereModerateMildNear normalRecovered11.5 y12 y12.5 y13 y13.5 y

How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. The chart starts 11.2 years after onset: the story doesn’t say how ill they were before that. 1 step says too little to place on the scale and is only in the table. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.

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WhenWhat happenedWhere they wereAfter
about 12 years before 2021CFS begins, likely EBV-triggeredI’ve had CFS for about 12 years In context ↗Not stated
Summer 2020doing great and running regularlyOver the summer I was doing great and running regularly In context ↗Near normal
September 2020crashed after caffeine into severe muscle weaknessThe crash initially happened two months ago when I had some caffeine and it sent me into an episode of severe muscle weakness In context ↗Severe
2020-11-10relapse steadily worsening, hospitalised twiceI’ve been hospitalized twice in the last two days In context ↗Severe
March 2021doing notably better on spironolactoneYes I am doing notably better than when I started the spiro treatment 5 months ago In context ↗Severe
2021-04-08much worse cognitive issues, landed in the ERThe last few weeks however I have had much, much worse cognitive issues, that even landed me in the ER In context ↗Severe
2022-03-01highly functional after CIRS diagnosis and treatmentI went from mostly bedridden for months to now being highly functional after diagnosing CIRS and getting on a treatment program In context ↗Near normalMold avoidance / CIRS protocol
2023-01-1475% recovered, exercising, working and socialising, still in treatmentI am 75% recovered and maybe can share some useful info In context ↗MildMold avoidance / CIRS protocol

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