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Lyme / co-infection protocols

46 people describe trying Lyme / co-infection protocols (43 with ME/CFS, 3 with long COVID).

26%
recovered fully or nearly
12 of 46
61%
improved (substantial or partial)
28 of 46
9%
relapsed
4 of 46
4%
no benefit
2 of 46

How it went

Did it last?

  • 7 of 46 said the benefit wore off (including the 4 who relapsed).
  • 4 of 46 needed to keep doing it to stay well.

Read from what people wrote. A story that ends without a follow-up counts as lasting, so treat these as minimums.

Outcome describedAccountsShare
Full recovery1124%
Near-full12%
Substantial1226%
Partial1635%
Relapsed49%
No benefit24%

By how ill people were

Severity at worstHow it wentnRecovered
Moderate30%
Severe1937%
Very severe1030%

14 accounts don’t say how ill the person was.

Who published these accounts

Sells a treatment or program15 accounts
47%
Recovery advocacy site1 accounts
100%
Independent (blog, forum, news)30 accounts
13%

33% of these accounts are on pages that sell this treatment or a program around it. Those pages publish their successes; compare the independent row.

How often it comes up

Posts that mention Lyme / co-infection protocols, per 1,000 posts each year. Hover a point for the count.

02462009201220152018202120242026
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YearPosts mentioning itAll postsPer 1,000
200901840.0
201026822.9
201107040.0
201201,4910.0
201321,7081.2
201422,3520.9
201582,1583.7
201601,4310.0
201733,1101.0
201832,2011.4
201971,0756.5
202002,5810.0
202111,8670.5
202241,1663.4
202321,0002.0
202401,2370.0
202501,0190.0
2026 (so far)08400.0

Posts in the forum threads we archived, 26,806 in all, counted per year. A mention means the post names the treatment, not that the writer took it. These threads all contain a recovery story, so they show what those communities discussed, not everyone with ME/CFS or long COVID. All trends

All 46 accounts

  • Martin's Paradoxical Temporary ME/CFS Remission Story

    Relapsed ME/CFS Very severeIll 10 yearsEffect faded healthrising.org Jul 2024

    Martin became ill after EBV reactivation, Lyme disease and food poisoning, and was bedbound for the last three of his ten years of illness with severe post-exertional malaise. Lyrica, benzodiazepines, tianeptine, quetiapine, rapamycin and methylprednisolone…

  • The Healing Dudes: Getting out of Long Covid and Chronic Lyme together

    Partial Long COVID Ill 4.5 yearsEffect faded healwithliz.com · sells Jul 2023

    Credits nervous system, meditation and community. Joe was ill 4-5yr Lyme then LC relapse with long COVID and reports a partial improvement. Relapsed into long covid after Lyme recovery.

  • The Healing Dudes: Getting out of Long Covid and Chronic Lyme together

    Partial Long COVID SevereIll 17 years healwithliz.com · sells Jul 2023

    Credits nervous system, meditation and community. Josh was ill 17 years with severe long COVID and reports a partial improvement. Chronic Lyme primary; "incredible progress," not cure.

  • Recovery stories: parasites cleanse

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Apr 2021

    In 2006, took Paragone (an herbal antiparasitic supplement) for a couple of months alongside a very-low-carb diet, and reports it "cut the brain fog I'd grown up with by about 70%." Explicit that this did not touch the underlying ME/CFS, which they attribute…

  • Does anyone with CFS get back to 100% ever?

    Partial ME/CFS SevereIll 4 years forums.phoenixrising.me Aug 2020

    uglevod's treatment was the Marshall Protocol (MP, per mpkb.org), an antibiotic-based regimen; the post doesn't give specific drugs or doses, only that it was "brutal," especially in the first 1.5 years, with blood work resembling "mild chemo." The post…

  • List of ME/CFS Recovery and Improvement Stories

    Full recovery ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me · sells Jun 2020

    Received FMT (fecal microbiota transplant) treatment at the Taymount Clinic for a severe, chronic-Lyme-linked ME/CFS-like illness; this page gives no session count, dosing, or other protocol detail. It describes a three-level gain and a full recovery…

  • Getting Results, increased activity

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jan 2020

    Returning years after his 2014 ARV thread, describes a newer multi-drug stack - disulfiram (Antabuse) escalated from 125mg to 250mg twice weekly over four months with alpha lipoic acid the following morning, plus clarithromycin/rifampin/minocycline for…

  • 3 Decades of ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, MCS, Lyme End Fast

    Full recovery ME/CFS Very severeIll 33 years cfsunravelled.com · sells Jun 2019

    Claudia treated chronic Lyme disease from 2012-2015 with three years of low-dose Byron White herbal protocols plus a strict elimination diet, then in 2019 did the three-month ANS REWIRE nervous-system retraining program alongside naturopath adjustments that…

  • Kiki overcomes POTS, MECFS with Chronic Lyme after 10 years of illness

    Full recovery ME/CFS SevereIll 10 years cfsunravelled.com · sells May 2019

    Credits diet, chiropractic and IV therapy. Kiki was ill 10y with severe ME/CFS and is described as fully recovered. Jugular venoplasty surgery plus NUCCA chiropractic.

  • Sirin Gnadeberg Shares How She Cured Her ME/CFS and POTS

    Full recovery ME/CFS SevereIll 5 years cfsunravelled.com · sells Apr 2019

    Sirin Gnadeberg added salt to her drinking water starting in April 2016, which significantly improved her POTS symptoms, then took 16 weeks of antibiotics after a Lyme specialist found elevated antibodies to Bartonella, Chlamydia and Mycoplasma (despite…

  • Severe post-Lyme ME/CFS patient achieves full remission after Taymount FMT

    Full recovery ME/CFS Very severeEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Feb 2019

    Kasia Vermaire, left severely symptomatic with digestive collapse after Lyme disease was declared "cured" by antibiotics, and at one point contemplating euthanasia from desperation, received an FMT at the Taymount Clinic in June 2018. She reported full…

  • Did finding an infection via Armin Labs have a positive influence on your treatment & recovery

    Partial ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me Jan 2019

    Antibiotics for Borrelia found via Armin Labs testing gave her relief from "the unrelenting horror of Lyme disease pain and malaise," but she reports the years of undiagnosed infection left lasting autoimmune-type sequelae -- severe POTS, muscle weakness,…

  • This illness will last for a long time. And why is that? Because I am already prepared to die – inside

    Full recovery ME/CFS Very severeIll 8 months recoverynorway.org Jan 2019

    Attended a one-on-one Lightning Process course over four days (22-25 April 2014) in Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England, with trainer Heather Thomas, after her mother had already tried acupuncture, natural pills, syrups, oils, restricted diets and herbs…

  • Treatment with KDM Miraculous So Far, Need Help with Dysbiosis Though

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severeIll 30 years forums.phoenixrising.me Jan 2019

    After roughly 30 years of suspected chronic Lyme/ME-CFS that left him "near totally bed-ridden and almost not being able to speak," he began a multi-part KDM protocol in 2018 including subcutaneous Gammanorm, alternating Normix/Mutaflor, B12 injections, an…

  • Choose the order: Oximatrine, Olmesartan, Famciclovir, Inosine Pranobex and Cycloferon.

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jun 2018

    Olmesartan, an angiotensin receptor blocker taken as part of a Marshall Protocol approach; he does not give his own exact dose, though he notes a severe ME/CFS patient he knew benefited on as little as 20mg daily within a few months. He reports the drug…

  • Tenofovir (Viread) / Raltegravir (Isentress) Cures ME/CFS Patient Sick for 20 Yrs + Tenofovir Poll

    Full recovery ME/CFS Ill 20 years forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2017

    Took tenofovir and raltegravir continuously for four years for ME/CFS that began after a measles/rubella/polio booster as a teenager, with extensive testing having ruled out Lyme disease. Quoted directly as saying "After 20 years of ME I am now cured. My 4th…

  • Need to delete this. [Deleted]

    Partial ME/CFS ModerateIll 4 years healthrising.org Aug 2017

    Was diagnosed with ME/CFS first, then four years later diagnosed with Lyme disease and treated with a combination of pharmaceutical and herbal antibiotics under a Lyme specialist, and separately started cholestyramine with EPA/DHA fish oil after also…

  • Need to delete this. [Deleted]

    Partial ME/CFS Very severe healthrising.org Jun 2017

    Treated a combination of CIRS/mold illness, Lyme, Babesia and antibiotic-resistant MARCONS sinus infection with doxycycline plus Diflucan, then a rotating four-times-daily binder regimen (Takesumi charcoal, diatomaceous earth, zeoBind, citrus pectin), a BEG…

  • "Death Rider": A (Hopeful) Mold Illness Story

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severeIll 5 years healthrising.org Apr 2017

    After moving into a moldy house around 2011, former endurance cyclist Chris Graber declined over several years into a wheelchair- and oxygen-dependent state with a central IV line, initially misdiagnosed as Lyme disease. Once Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker identified…

  • In remission following Ayurvedic treatment

    Full recovery ME/CFS SevereIll 6 years healthrising.org Mar 2017

    Traveled to Kerala, India for 18 days of Ayurvedic treatment, including detox procedures, nasyam and shirodhara, after 6 years of CFS/ME with symptoms ranging from very severe to mild on the Canadian criteria scale, having already tried the Marshall…

  • Long Treatment Regimen Reaps Dividends for Irene

    Substantial ME/CFS SevereIll 13 years healthrising.org · sells Aug 2016

    Irene, a college teacher, developed severe ME/CFS with active EBV and HHV-6 infections after 2001, with extreme fatigue, migraines, joint pain and memory loss. Over more than a decade she combined Valtrex and Valcyte, Babesia treatment, atenolol, complete…

  • The Master Cleanse

    Partial ME/CFS ModerateIll 14 years howirecovered.com Apr 2016

    Fourteen years into CFS and CIRS (also citing heavy metal toxicity, mold and Lyme disease), Eric documented a roughly 25-day Master Cleanse of lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne, adding psyllium and bentonite shakes and continuing some supplements against…

  • Success treating multiple infections with Chlorine Dioxide

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severeIll 15 years healthrising.org Feb 2016

    Followed Kerri Rivera's MMS (chlorine dioxide) protocol for 4.5 months, combined with a raw vegan diet and daily castor oil packs, for CFS/ME diagnosed 15 years earlier and later found to involve Lyme, bartonella, babesia, EBV, mycoplasma and mold. Had been…

  • Is Lyme Disease Curable? Katina Makris' Story

    Substantial ME/CFS SevereIll 10 years cfsunravelled.com · sells Nov 2014

    Credits CBT or psychological work and mentor mindset. Katina was ill 10y with severe ME/CFS and reports a substantial improvement. Chronic Lyme plus fibromyalgia; mindset shift.

  • what has worked for you

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severe forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2014

    Over several years of self-experimentation starting from very severe illness (Bell's disability score about 10, housebound 3+ years), he found graded exercise, the Myhill protocol, the Martin Pall protocol and various detox regimens made him worse, but…

  • GcMAF spray and bravo yogurt

    Substantial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2014

    Used MAF314 (later marketed as Bravo) probiotic yoghurt for about a year, alongside concurrent Lyme treatment. At 6 months Nagalase fell from 3.9 to 2.9 and he felt better; by 12 months he felt "much better." He separately tried a GcMAF spray for 2 months…

  • Seeing some immediate improvement with ARVs

    Substantial ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me May 2014

    Started Isentress and Truvada after years of antibiotics for comorbid Lyme disease and ME/CFS (also XMRV-positive) had only kept him from "disability." Reports "immediate improvement" and, hedging with "if I had to guess," attributes "85% of my improvement"…

  • Lyme Literacy: A 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Chronicle' Pt. VI

    No benefit ME/CFS SevereIll 14 years healthrising.org Jul 2013

    Sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim (Bactrim) was one of several antibiotics she received intravenously, alongside Doxycycline and Azithromycin, under a Lyme-literate physician's care. She had been severely debilitated by chronic fatigue syndrome for about…

  • Anyone have any success with GAPS?

    Partial ME/CFS Ill 12 years forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2013

    After 12 years of CFS/Lyme, he combined GAPS with bone broth, high-dose probiotics, yogurt, kefir, coconut oil, glutamine and cod liver oil, reporting "significant improvement" after just one week. He cautions that one week is "too early to claim a…

  • Anyone have any success with GAPS?

    Relapsed ME/CFS Ill 12 yearsEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2013

    After 12 years of CFS, six months on the GAPS diet "definitely lifted" his general health and "improved my cognition greatly," to the point he could take up artistic pursuits again. Starting Lyme antibiotics about six months after beginning GAPS "set him…

  • Starting to see moderate success on Valcyte against CMV

    Partial ME/CFS SevereIll 4 years forums.phoenixrising.me Mar 2013

    Four years into illness, after 3.5 years of antibiotics and antimalarials for Lyme and co-infections (Bartonella, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, Babesia) stopped helping, switched to Valcyte 2 tablets daily. After three months her CMV…

  • Better Health Guy: My Story

    Substantial ME/CFS SevereIll 30 yearsEffect faded betterhealthguy.com 2013

    This page does not name any specific drugs, doses, procedures, or protocols Scott Forsgren used, stating only that he worked with doctors and other practitioners over the years. He describes his chronic illness as lasting nearly thirty years, with a…

  • Test results and antivirals success, what are high titers, what tests?

    Substantial ME/CFS Moderate forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2012

    After one month of doxycycline for Lyme disease, reported feeling "enormously better," summing up the change simply as being "off the couch and cooking again." Posted as an aside in a thread otherwise focused on antiviral titers and testing, with dosing…

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2012

    Treating co-infections including Borrelia and Bartonella with a trial-and-error mix of MAF314, antibiotics, biofilm-reducing enzymes, amalgam removal and chelation, he reports "MAF314 has been working well for me," a partial ongoing improvement achieved only…

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2012

    Treating Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia and EBV, she reports her body "reacts terribly" to GcMAF, with worsening reactions across multiple injections that came "close to ER trips." She stopped GcMAF on her new practitioner's advice in favor of antibiotics and IV…

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    Relapsed ME/CFS SevereIll 1.5 yearsEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Jun 2012

    Under KDM's care for 18 months, six months of rigorous GcMAF use brought "a lot of improvement," but stopping for six months for family reasons was followed by a Lyme diagnosis that KDM was reportedly "almost excited" to find because it explained the case.…

  • Anyone improve from bed/housebound to high level of functionality?

    Relapsed ME/CFS Very severeIll 1 yearEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Jan 2012

    After a year completely bedridden in what she calls a "strange comatose condition" - unable to chew or speak, washed by family - she took megadoses of magnesium, zinc and vitamin C while resting in bed doing nothing, and rose to about level 8 functioning.…

  • Successfull GcMAF Therapy

    Substantial ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me · sells Sep 2011

    Reports 5 months of GcMAF (2 months on a Lyme protocol, then 3 months for XMRV) let him come off supplemental oxygen and Lyme medications, wake near noon instead of 4-6pm, cook meals, take short walks and speak/converse better. He identifies himself in the…

  • Do CFS Patients Ever Get TRULY Well?

    Near-full ME/CFS SevereIll 12 years forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2009

    Combined a mold-avoidance protocol with cholestyramine taken in low-mold locations, three months of doxycycline for Lyme, Famvir, and then Valcyte started about three weeks before posting. Says she reached full wellness roughly a year before this post, with…

  • What GcMAF dose?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    As a patient of Dr De Meirleir, took weekly injectable GcMAF at 50ng in 2012, which she says "normalized my Nagalase and...improved my general condition," alongside separate antibiotic/herbal treatment for Borrelia and Bartonella co-infections between 2012…

  • How Dr. Cat found her freedom from Severe CFS and Lyme

    Full recovery ME/CFS Severe healwithliz.com · sells

    Credits brain retraining. Cat had severe ME/CFS and is described as fully recovered. Comorbid Lyme; is herself a doctor.

  • Mika's full recovery from CFS, Lyme, Severe MCS

    Full recovery ME/CFS Severe healwithliz.com · sells

    Credits brain retraining. Mika had severe ME/CFS and is described as fully recovered. Comorbid Lyme, MCS, MCAS.

  • Primal Trust testimonials: Alyssa Shifre

    Partial Long COVID Ill 3 years primaltrust.org · sells

    Credits brain retraining. Alyssa was ill 3y with long COVID and reports a partial improvement. POTS, Lyme, Long COVID and MCAS combination.

  • Primal Trust testimonials: Lainie Glenn

    Partial ME/CFS primaltrust.org · sells

    Credits brain retraining. Lainie had ME/CFS and reports a partial improvement. Lyme, mold, CFS and TBI; 30-60% functionality under 2 months.

  • Primal Trust testimonials: Tess Leander

    Full recovery ME/CFS primaltrust.org · sells

    Credits brain retraining. Tess had ME/CFS and is described as fully recovered. CFS, mold and Lyme; claims totally symptom-free.

  • Primal Trust testimonials: Carrie Martin

    Substantial ME/CFS SevereIll 7 years primaltrust.org · sells

    Credits brain retraining. Carrie was ill 7y with severe ME/CFS and reports a substantial improvement. CFS from Lyme; returning to work and socialising.