Very severe, bedridden ME/CFS, now somewhat better with LDN and ketotifen
- Condition
- ME/CFS
- At worst
- Very severe (bedbound, unable to do basic care)
- Ill before improving or writing
- 6 years
- Last post
- Oct 2026
In their words
- Condition: ME/CFS
We both developed CFS ME, PEM and POTS and got diagnosed with those in 2021.
In context ↗ - At worst: Very severe
I couldn't hold my head up and was on bed pan
In context ↗ - Now: Somewhat better
i still have severe sensory issues but better to the point of able to write this with special screen and light filter
In context ↗ - Began after: COVID
got sick at the same time in 2020 with an extra aggressive covid strain
- Says they never had: Anxiety & low mood
I never had depression, not even anxiety
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Summary
Marsh 16925 fell ill with COVID in 2020 and was diagnosed with ME/CFS and POTS in 2021, becoming very severe, bedridden and near IV nutrition. They credited LDN, ketotifen and other antihistamines, a low-histamine diet, mitochondrial supplements and later Mestinon with piecemeal gains. Six years on they remained severe and bedridden, better than their worst, and were hospitalised twice after trying ivabradine and cromolyn.
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What they tried
What they credit
Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- prescribed exercise · Much worse
went on a doctor prescribed mini biketour, went home, normal to bed at night and never stood really up again
In context ↗ - LDN · Helped a lot
I started at 1,5mg because it was 2021 and I had the worst migraines for like three weeks
In context ↗ - stellate ganglion block of both sides · Helped a lot
A stellate ganglion blockage of both sides. That helped the vertigo a lot.
In context ↗ - Kaneka Ubiquinol Q10 · Helped a lot
then Kaneka Q10 as Ubiquinol and NADH sublingual from Dr Birkmayer actually made a huge difference after some weeks
In context ↗ - NADH sublingual from Dr. Birkmayer · Helped a lot
NADH sublingual from Dr. Birkmayer (4 other NADH did nothing)
In context ↗ - Ketotifen · Helped a lot
Ketotifen intensified Ketotifen extremely the first weeks, but then it was my life saver, I was down to 2 foods and docs wanted to start parenteral nutrition.
In context ↗ - Cromolyn (Cromoglycin) · Much worse
Got twice hospitalised for each a week after trying Ivabradin and again after Cromoglycin.
In context ↗ - Fexofenadine (Allegra) · Helped
I also added 60mg of Allegra to the 3, it reduced my brainfog.
In context ↗ - Desloratadine · Helped
Antihistamines, like Fexofenadine or Desloratadine, best with Ketotifen. Ever since I sleep way better.
In context ↗ - Diphenhydraminchloride · Helped
Diphenhydraminchloride, it literally gets sold for vertigo/motion sickness.
In context ↗ - Famotidine · Helped
My "chronic gastritis" stopped with this
In context ↗ - C8 MCT oil · Helped a lot
Plus, ridiculously high amounts of C8 MCT oil. I'm very severe and it feels like taking a light switch.
In context ↗ - ketogenic / no-carb diet · Helped a lot
I do best when I'm in ketosis but my body is broken so even with 0 carbs I'm hardly in ketosis but I'm waaaay better without/super low carbs.
In context ↗ - low histamine diet, no gluten/lactose · Helped
no histamine/gluten/lactose plus Ketotifen
In context ↗ - all food blended · Helped
What saved me at the last second from a feeding tube was getting everything blended.
In context ↗ - Fluvoxamine · Helped
LDN, Ketotifen, Fluvoxamine helped the most.
In context ↗ - Sanopal forte · Helped
Sanopal forte, it's expensive and needs to be ordered from Austria, but it works great for crashes.
In context ↗ - IV corticosteroids · No change
The steroids, even though IV, didn't change anything about my energy levels
In context ↗ - Mestinon · Helped a lot
Then it started to help and now I love it and take 60mg up to 4 times a day.
In context ↗ - Ivabradine · Helped a lot
I started on 1,25 and I'm now on 2,5 twice a day but it got my HR from 160 so much down and it reduced my extreme fatigue by a lot.
In context ↗ - Midodrine · Helped
Also Mestinon, midodrine and abdominal bindages are so helpful
In context ↗ - stopping standing/walking, pacing · Helped
I started to get better when I stopped trying to see stand/walk
In context ↗ - power wheelchair · Helped
The biggest help for me was a power wheelchair
In context ↗ - electric bed frame · Helped
my adjustable bed frame was the best thing I got for this illness
In context ↗ - Melatonin · Helped
Got prescribed 8-10mg of melatonin to help brain waste-clairing at night from my CFS ME researching specialist. It does help me.
In context ↗ - saline IV infusions · Helped
I got them once regularly 2-3 a week and it's literally the same as drinking electrolytes
In context ↗ - salt water and electrolytes · Helped
ever since changing to only salt water and as capsules potassium gluconate and magnesium malate
In context ↗ - Magnesium malate · Helped
Magnesium malate helps a bit with energy
In context ↗ - Magnesium glycinate · Helped
Magnesium glycinate helps at night for better sleep
In context ↗ - normal magnesium · Worse
Normal magnesium made everything worse.
In context ↗ - alpha lipoic acid · Helped
some like alpha lipoic acid, kaneka Q10, NADH sublingual
In context ↗ - bioidentical progesterone creme · Helped
Progesterone creme from cycle day 12-28 helped me a loooot with this
In context ↗ - Paxlovid · Helped a lot
then paxlovid started to kick in and it got so much better. That medication is a miracle.
In context ↗ - breath work, mantra and meditation · Helped
I then did breath work, mantra and meditation for an hour to lower my resting HR from 90-100 to the normal 55-60
In context ↗ - CBT · Helped
I think CBT is great, you just need to specify the goal you have for it
In context ↗ - Garmin watch with the CFS ME interface / rthm.com · Helped
The physical stress and body battery are actually useful for me
In context ↗ - Eye drops · Not said
my severe dry eyes I can't take eye drops for thank to anaphylaxis, my eyes swell up
In context ↗
Approaches: POTS medication · SSRIs · Antihistamines & MCAS · Diet · Pacing · Supplements
Their path
How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. 2 steps have no time and sit in story order between the steps around them. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.
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| When | What happened | Where they were | After |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | COVID infection; still working, repeatedly 'sick' after doing moreWas an endurance athlete and my friend, extreme couch potato, got sick at the same time in 2020 with an extra aggressive covid strainIn context ↗ | Mild | |
| 2020 | crashed after a doctor-recommended mountainbike ride; never walked more than 500m againI did a small tour, (Mikro compared to before) woke up the next day, fainted and never again was able to walk more than like 500m.In context ↗ | Severe | |
| 2021 | fainted on sitting up after part-time job; hospitalised with CFS/ME diagnosis, on bed panafter the first week I woke up and fainted whenever I tried to sit up, got hospitalised and the CFS ME diagnosis.In context ↗ | Very severe | |
| — | stopped trying to stand and walk; wheeled stool, then power wheelchair and electric bedI started to get better when I stopped trying to see stand/walk, it takes too much energy with pots and CFS.In context ↗ | Severe | Pacing and the energy envelope |
| June 2026 | severe vertigo largely resolved and controllable with medsA stellate ganglion blockage of both sides. That helped the vertigo a lot.In context ↗ | Severe | Stellate ganglion block |
| June 2026 | Mestinon helped breathing, chewing, digestion, dry eyes and energy, without new capabilitiesit helps a lot I feel, without having gained actual new capabilities but thats severe lolIn context ↗ | Severe | Mestinon / pyridostigmine |
| October 2026 | still severe and bedbound, no upright time, needs a carerBut yeah, still severe, had been hospitalised several times because pots and MCAS got off the rails, that severe.In context ↗ | Severe |
Adverse events
- Low-dose naltrexone“LDN helps me only when taken in the morning, had insane migraines for the first few weeks” In context ↗ Side effects
- Low-dose naltrexone“Tried LDN in the evening again and the next day I was unable to string a thought together.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Stellate ganglion block“The few hours between the two felt quite bad” In context ↗ Side effects
- Mestinon / pyridostigmine“I only started with 10mg/once a day but had a bad reaction on the second day, and then more active viral cold symptoms and weakness for some days.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Mestinon / pyridostigmine“My circulation collapsed for a bit and super weak.” In context ↗ Low blood pressure or fainting
- Low-dose naltrexone“I had the worst migraines for like three weeks” In context ↗ Side effects
- Eye drops“my severe dry eyes I can't take eye drops for thank to anaphylaxis, my eyes swell up” In context ↗ Allergic reaction / anaphylaxis
- Ivabradine“Got twice hospitalised for each a week after trying Ivabradin and again after Cromoglycin.” In context ↗ Hospitalisation
- Cromolyn (Gastrocrom, Nalcrom)“Got twice hospitalised for each a week after trying Ivabradin and again after Cromoglycin.” In context ↗ Hospitalisation
- Mestinon / pyridostigmine“Mestinon gave me a mild anticholinergic crisis with going limb and fainting the second day” In context ↗ Low blood pressure or fainting
- Ketotifen (Zaditen)“Ketotifen intensified Ketotifen extremely the first weeks, but then it was my life saver” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Ketotifen (Zaditen)“for me the initial fatigue subsided after two weeks” In context ↗ Side effects
- Cromolyn (Gastrocrom, Nalcrom)“I also had such an anaphylaxis phase after a cromolyn try. Only that my blood pressure drops critically and I go unconscious” In context ↗ Allergic reaction / anaphylaxis
- Mestinon / pyridostigmine“I take it on an empty stomach, so I do get nauseous sometimes” In context ↗ Gut side effects
- Graded rehab and self-made programmes“went on a doctor prescribed mini biketour, went home, normal to bed at night and never stood really up again” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Low-dose naltrexone“LDN was the worst migraine pain in my life” In context ↗ Side effects
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Post-exertional malaise
my PEM is mainly viral and neurological not really fatigue
In context ↗ - Brain fog
I couldn't read at all or follow any conversations.
In context ↗ - POTS & dysautonomia
I have CFS ME, POTS with severe dysautonomia, MCAS.
In context ↗ - Mast cell (MCAS) & allergies
I have also very sever MCAS
In context ↗ - Sleep problems
My sleep with LDN looks so goddamn bad on my watch.
In context ↗ - Pain & fibromyalgia
I have severe pain, muscle weakness, constant fainting and so on.
In context ↗ - Headaches & migraine
any other kind of screen gives me pain, nausea and migraines
In context ↗ - Gut problems
my digestion was also not working I was down to severe underweight die to the gastroparesis
In context ↗ - Light & noise sensitivity
I'm severely light sensitive, so my light alarm stays at 1% brightness and a normal alarm.
In context ↗ - Breathlessness
it improved my blurry vision, air hunger, chew abilities, muscle strength, digestion
In context ↗ - Heart symptoms & palpitations
I have 150 when I try to stand.
In context ↗ - Muscle weakness
I can't stand as my muscles are not able to carry my weight
In context ↗ - Neuropathy & tingling
I also have MG, CFS ME, MCAS, SFN
In context ↗ - Flu-like symptoms
collapsed the next day with fever, vertigo, swollen lymph knodes
In context ↗ - Temperature regulation
I faint above 27. Feel worse above 23.
In context ↗ - Vision problems
I get deep red hot skin blotches, can't see, think..
In context ↗ - Loss of smell or taste
It actually improved my ability to smell and taste a bit, after years.
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