Daily fatigue and PEM with ME/CFS, somewhat better with Prozac and less work stress
- Condition
- ME/CFS
- At worst
- Mild (working or studying, with limits)
- Ill before improving or writing
- 5 years
- Last post
- Oct 2026
In their words
- Condition: ME/CFS
Context: Mild CFS, Covid-induced.
In context ↗ - At worst: Mild
I'm mild for now, I can still do basic tasks, walk around, go on holidays etc. But if I over-exert, I get PEM.
In context ↗ - Now: Somewhat better
Now, I'm not cured but I'm feeling much better.
In context ↗ - Began after: COVID
I had suspected Covid in March 2020.
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Summary
Stream 75770 developed mild long COVID after a suspected infection in March 2020 and was close to normal by mid-2021. Moderna shots brought back daily fatigue, PEM, joint and nerve pain, worse than the first bout. Later they tried Prozac, cut out caffeine and alcohol, and reduced work stress; these helped mood and some symptoms, but they still had flares. They remained unable to exercise without PEM, and long walks could trigger relapses.
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What they tried
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Also tried
Their words about each treatment
- Paleo / low-carb diet · Helped
am currently trying Paleo to manage symptoms which helps a bit but I still get tired
In context ↗ - running / high-intensity exercise · Worse
every time I go for a run or do any sort of high intensity/cardio exercise, I seem to relapse for a few days after
In context ↗ - garlic · Helped
I’ve found that eating a clove of garlic actually helps knock it out and reduce flare ups significantly.
In context ↗ - salt water gargle · Helped
Salt water does help, I forgot to mention that!
In context ↗ - Prozac (fluoxetine) · Helped
I went on Prozac for 3 months last year when I had (Covid induced) long haul and it worked really well.
In context ↗ - Niacin (vitamin B3) · Not said
Have also bought some Niacin so hoping this might help too.
In context ↗ - rest · Helped
I actually rested for the last 2 months and two days this week I went on tiny 1k runs which didn't make me too out of breath and I have not had any long covid symptoms!
In context ↗ - Elvanse / ADHD stimulants · Helped a lot
I take a much lower dose now - 15mg compared to 20mg.
In context ↗ - cetirizine, loratadine, fexofenadine · No change
I also tried famotidine, fexofenadaine, loratidine, cetirizine... none of them did anything.
In context ↗ - cutting out caffeine · Helped
Cut out caffeine. This reduced my physical symptom like nerve & muscle pain
In context ↗ - stopping alcohol · No change
I was sober for like 1.5 years but it never helped my CFS
In context ↗ - vitamin D · Not said
I’m taking daily supplements: vit D, vit b6, b3 (niacin), zinc, magnesium, coq10, MSM, lysine and omega 3,6,9.
In context ↗ - L-Lysine · Not said
I do take the supplement L-Lysine to prevent outbreaks and also because I’ve heard it might be good for long haul.
In context ↗ - Venlafaxine · Worse
I did try an SNRI (Venlafaxine) for a few days but it felt quite intense which freaked me out
In context ↗ - antivirals · No change
Antivirals don’t seem to make a difference to me
In context ↗ - intermittent fasting · Helped
I think I'm gonna give intermittent fasting another go too, I always seem to feel better when I skip breakfast.
In context ↗ - Magnesium Glycinate · Helped
I started taking Magnesium Glycinate recently and my legs feel better but it could also be coincidence.
In context ↗ - stretches / yoga · Helped
feeling of restlessness in legs which is slightly helped by doing stretches/ yoga
In context ↗ - hot baths · Helped
I've also started taking baths again lately now that the weather is cooler and they really help.
In context ↗ - Zolpidem · Helped
Zolpidem has been best for me because it doesn’t cause any grogginess the next day for me.
In context ↗ - ibuprofen/co-codamol · No change
I was taking ibuprofen/co-codamol when I was ill, but I've taken this at other points of my LH and it didn't make my LH symptoms better.
In context ↗ - low histamine diet · Helped
I did feel better doing the low histamine diet but I lasted three days because it’s SO BORING.
In context ↗ - probiotics · No change
I took the ones recommended by the NHS here in the U.K. They were expensive and did nothing.
In context ↗ - Famotidine · No change
yesterday I took Famotidine (H2 blocker) after eating something accidentally high histamine at lunch which seemed to help, but this morning I took some and it’s doing nothing…
In context ↗ - Quercetin with zinc · Worse
I’ve had the same ‘spicy heat’ feeling after taking Quercetin with zinc. It’s almost like pins and needles/ hot itchy feeling everywhere.
In context ↗ - iron supplementation · Helped
My ferritin was low so I've been taking this daily since last year.
In context ↗ - electrolyte drink · Helped
I did feel better yesterday after eating some salty sushi and having an electrolyte drink
In context ↗ - CoQ10 · Helped
I've been taking Coq10 for about 2 weeks and I *think* I've noticed a slight reduction in PEM and being able to do more activity.
In context ↗ - levothyroxine · Helped
my headaches and tiredness did improve after the levothyroxine, which I started before the ketotifen
In context ↗ - Ketotifen · Helped a lot
I’ve also improved massively with ketotifen!
In context ↗ - LDN (low dose naltrexone) · Helped
Started on 0.25mg, now on 4.5mg. No side effects except vivid dreams. I noticed straight away my brain fog/focus was slightly better.
In context ↗ - pacing · Not said
maybe very slowly getting better (or I’ve just been learning to pace better…)
In context ↗ - COVID vaccination as treatment · Worse
My long haul symptoms had finally recovered after a year … then came back after I got the vaccine.
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Approaches: SSRIs · Antihistamines & MCAS · Diet · Radical rest · Stimulants · Supplements · Thyroid hormones
Their path
How ill they were on the ME/CFS severity scale, estimated from what they describe at each point, with time counted from when the illness began. Hover or tap a point. 1 step has no time and sits in story order between the steps around it. Dates are when they posted. What the levels mean.
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| When | What happened | Where they were | After |
|---|---|---|---|
| March 2020 | suspected COVID-19, followed by mild long haulI had suspected Covid in March 2020. Long hauled mildly (but more moderate flare ups after exercise) for about a year.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| August 2020 | relapse after starting heavy high-heart-rate running againYesterday I went for a run for the first time in a few weeks and today I was exhausted and had a three hour nap at 5pm.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| April 2021 | almost back to normal, able to do short runsApril 2021 - I'm almost back to normal. I can go for short runs and not relapse after.In context ↗ | Near normal | |
| August 2021 | long covid symptoms returned after the Moderna shotsThen, after a couple of weeks, I get mild flu like symptoms, aching muscles, weird nerve feelings and general malaise/tiredness.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| October 2021 | worse than the original bout; mostly sitting on the sofa, only walks possiblethen after that I've actually been worse than my original bout of long haul ... I can go on walks and that's about it.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| November 2021 | COVID reinfection; symptoms briefly vanished for a weekI had no aches or pains/restless legs/aching hands etc. ... I was actually full of energy!In context ↗ | Near normal | |
| December 2021 | symptoms crept back after the reinfection and a walkIt's been 2 weeks now though and my symptoms are creeping back inIn context ↗ | Mild | |
| May 2024 | Prozac lifted mood and briefly gave more physical capacityAt first I felt great, actually better than before I was on it. I could even walk for up to an hour without getting PEM.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| October 2024 | CFS getting worse over months; dreading work daysThe last few months my CFS has been getting worse. Lately I've been dreading every day at work, it's like wading through mud.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| December 2024 | lowest point with CFS plus unmedicated ADHD and a desk jobThis time last year, I was in hell due to having both of these conditions.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| March 2025 | levothyroxine for borderline thyroid; headaches and tiredness improvedmy headaches and tiredness did improve after the levothyroxine, which I started before the ketotifenIn context ↗ | Mild | Levothyroxine (Synthroid) |
| 2025 | ketotifen cleared most of the 'poisoned' MCAS-like feelingThis helped *tremendously* with the "poisoned" feeling I described above. I barely experience it now.In context ↗ | Mild | Ketotifen (Zaditen) |
| September 2025 | LDN improved brain fog and recovery from PEMI noticed straight away my brain fog/focus was slightly better. I also think that I get over PEM quicker.In context ↗ | Mild | Low-dose naltrexone |
| December 2025 | feeling much better though not curedNow, I'm not cured but I'm feeling much better.In context ↗ | Mild | |
| April 2026 | restarted Elvanse daily with no crashes, energy stable through the dayI've been taking it daily since April and have had no crash at all, no PEM.In context ↗ | Mild | Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse) |
| October 2026 | still mild; working and active but cannot exercise without PEMI'm luckily still only mild but can't exercise without getting PEM.In context ↗ | Mild |
Adverse events
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“I had to give up my ADHD meds (stimulants) because I realised they made my symptoms worse” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“it made me feel like a zombie for a bit” In context ↗ Side effects
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“My only side effects were a bit of nausea initially and some mild tiredness.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“The last 2 days I feel like I have the flu, I can barely move and in the evenings I'm getting very restless legs.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Venlafaxine (Effexor)“I did try an SNRI (Venlafaxine) for a few days but it felt quite intense which freaked me out” In context ↗ Side effects
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“I had to stop Elvanse because it was making my symptoms way worse.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“I stopped taking the stimulants in July 2021 because I noticed they were exacerbating the symptoms.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I'd also get very sleepy in the afternoon every day.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I also can't seem to eat food without getting tired/groggy after - another symptom that started when I went on Prozac.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“I had a really bad relapse (after being 90% cured) of my LH symptoms” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“I just know they started making me feel weird once my LH symptoms kicked in. It seemed to magnify everything.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac), Venlafaxine (Effexor)“I was on anti depressants which helped my mood a bit but made me fatigued.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“yep I was on Vyvanse and also found it exacerbated my nerve and joint pain” In context ↗ Nerve pain
- Fluoxetine (Prozac), Venlafaxine (Effexor)“I'd wake up full of energy at 6/7am (I usually sleep in til 9) but then I'd need a nap around lunchtime for at least 1 or 2 hours.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I also feel like my brain fog is worse, and I feel like it got worse on Prozac and never lifted.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I also feel like my histamine/food intolerances started after being on Prozac.” In context ↗ Side effects
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“sometimes when I take stimulants all my body pains feel worse straight away” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“feel a bit more sweaty etc if I take a higher dose” In context ↗ Side effects
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“even then I'd feel weirdly out of breath/ aware of my breathing” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Baicalein and quercetin“I’ve had the same ‘spicy heat’ feeling after taking Quercetin with zinc. It’s almost like pins and needles/ hot itchy feeling everywhere.” In context ↗ Nerve pain
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I started waking up with what felt like withdrawal symptoms - headaches, fatigue, feeling foggy.” In context ↗ Withdrawal problems
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“now I feel like I am maybe getting PEM more easily” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse, Elvanse)“my last major crash was due to taking ADHD medication for 3 months” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I noticed I was getting into PEM more often, almost every day.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)“I felt slightly ‘manic’ on Prozac in the beginning” In context ↗ Mood or psychiatric effects
- Levothyroxine (Synthroid)“sometimes in the evening, like now, I feel a little wired and I can hear the blood rushing in my head” In context ↗ Side effects
- COVID vaccination as treatment“My long haul symptoms had finally recovered after a year … then came back after I got the vaccine.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- COVID vaccination as treatment“I've actually been worse than my original bout of long haul.” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- COVID vaccination as treatment“this just made me feel achy and ill and fatigued every day” In context ↗ Made symptoms worse
- COVID vaccination as treatment“I broke out in genital and oral ulcers after both vaccines and the booster” In context ↗ Autoimmune or inflammatory flare
- Low-dose naltrexone“No side effects except vivid dreams.” In context ↗ Side effects
Symptoms mentioned
Their words about their symptoms
- Post-exertional malaise
any kind of strenous exercise or things like yoga that strain my muscles will result in days afterwards feeling exhausted, achey, hangover/flu-like
In context ↗ - Brain fog
nausea, brain fog, anxiety, headache, dry mouth and throat/sinuses, achy joints
In context ↗ - POTS & dysautonomia
I get some POTS symptoms
In context ↗ - Mast cell (MCAS) & allergies
my histamine/food intolerances started after being on Prozac
In context ↗ - Pain & fibromyalgia
Constant feeling of tired/achey legs, especially when walking uphill or on stairs
In context ↗ - Headaches & migraine
my headaches and tiredness did improve after the levothyroxine
In context ↗ - Gut problems
low-grade nauseous, headachey, joints feel sore, irritability, brain fog, anxiety, itchy
In context ↗ - Breathlessness
I feel a bit breathless if I talk too much or try and walk up stairs
In context ↗ - Muscle weakness
legs are heavy to move, just a general feeling of malaise
In context ↗ - Neuropathy & tingling
my fingers and toes feel like pins and needles
In context ↗ - Anxiety & low mood
I’m at my wit’s end and I think I’m suffering from depression as a result.
In context ↗ - Flu-like symptoms
feeling exhausted, achey, hangover/flu-like
In context ↗ - Loss of smell or taste
I also lose my sense of smell/taste which I still haven't got back fully
In context ↗
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